How the draft looks if we trade down

Regardless of whether Winston is the next big thing or a bust, coming in now would be the worst possible timing for him to come. Shadows of RG3, tons of scandal, shitty record. Talk about setting up someone to fail. If we were to (god forbid) draft a QB early, we need someone of the strongest mental character to even have a chance.

Winston is a pretty good QB, but he still has some growing up to do and DC is not the place to do it right now.

Just curious, why don't you think he is a passer???

Two problems I have with Winston... he throws a lot of picks (some weren't his fault but a lot were just like any other qb).

Other problem I have is his odd realese. Just takes a while but he can throw rockets.

He also had a superior oline and it is obvious the skins will take years to develop an oline. Rather do what Seattle did and build a team and then find your QB... Even in the late first round.

Only team that won a super bowl with a top QB in the draft (like a top 5 pick) in the past 10 years were the colts. Even with manning they didn't win until they built a team around him.

Quake to me he just doesn't seem to have that it factor as a pocket passer. Also he's not that accurate when it comes to the "easy" throws. Also the dude is just apparently dumb off the field and I really don't want to hear about drama and shit any longer

Stop with the drafting a QB talk already.

Fix the freakin' lines. Have we not learned anything these past years?

Stop with the drafting a QB talk already.

Fix the freakin' lines. Have we not learned anything these past years?

OK, then whom do we draft on the lines who will be available at 5?

OK, then whom do we draft on the lines who will be available at 5?

Andrus Peat, Leonard Williams, or that dude from Iowa.

La'ell Collins as an early 2nd could be a nice steal too

IMO we can't draft Scherff or Peat. Even if we play them at RT, draft slotting and the end of rookie contracts means that we'll be paying two left tackle salaries. Such would be salary cap hell.

Actually that's why I might want to trade down. Grab a tackle later in the first who will be capable and whom we can pay a RT salary. Then we could use an extra pick from trade on a guard.

We have a lot of holes on this roster. Conventional wisdom would be to trade down and acquire more picks. But this rosters got way to many pretenders in important positions. We need to put some superior talent in the trenches. If we could trade back and still grab a guy like Brandon Scherff, Cedric Ogbuehi, Andrus Peat, or Ronnie Stanley. I would be completely satisfied with one of those guys at RT. If we could pick an extra second in the process. It make it all the better. The guy I really want is Scherff. He a day one starter with all pro talent.

OK, then whom do we draft on the lines who will be available at 5?

Unless Williams is there, we don't. We see what offers come in and try to trade back a few spots only. Then we pick the best lineman available from the several that warrant a say top half of the first round pick of which there should be a few.

It bears repeating that it is the identifying/evaluating of draft talent that we have an issue with and that certainly needs fixing (being dealt with on other threads.)

Unless Williams is there, we don't. We see what offers come in and try to trade back a few spots only. Then we pick the best lineman available from the several that warrant a say top half of the first round pick of which there should be a few.

I think you have the right idea but you might have the wrong player. This is a passing league, as you know, and I think having Randy Gregory opposite Ryan Kerrigan would give a major boost to our pass rush. Also, unlike others, I haven't given up on Jason Hatcher as an inside pass rusher. Nevertheless, if Gregory isn't there but Williams is, I suppose the Skins might feel like they have to take Williams.

I wouldn't have a problem with trading down into the the middle of the first round to pick up another second round selection. One or more of Ronnie Staley, Andrus Peat, Brandon Scherff, and La'el Collins should be available in the middle of the first round. Scherff and Collins could probably play RG as well as RT.

Of course, I'm also hoping that the Skins can pick up some OL and DL talent in FA.