How the draft looks if we trade down

Not a bad strategy.

Yeah, no strategy is full proof, but like the old saying goes, better a round too early than a pick too late

I hate the trade down talk.
You only trade down out of the top 5 pick if a team wants to take a premiere player, think ricky williams.

Top 5 pick should be an impact player that starts from day one.
We need another Trent Williams or Sean Taylor quality player so it's in our best interest to stay at 5 if one of those type of players is available.

adding second round picks does nothing for us.
Top 5 pick should be a can't miss player.

Second round picks you end up with players like Jarvis Jenkins, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas and David Amerson if you aren't careful.

Basically, Don't do it unless you have some jackass like the Saints and Ditka calling for a player!

They said that about Aldon Smith, and I see Winston being a great player, I would put those OL there too just didnt for that statement

If Winston is a great player, we need to take him, because we need a starting quality QB badly.

If Winston is a great player, we need to take him, because we need a starting quality QB badly.

I see a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger in him. I really do but you know people talk about "character issues"

I see a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger in him. I really do but you know people talk about "character issues"

Character issues would still make him a more athletic Roethlisberger, right?

I see a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger in him. I really do but you know people talk about "character issues"

I admit, I am a little leery of Winston, and not just for character issues. I have a hard time seeing him as a style fit within an offense like Gruden's. But granting that you are correct, taking him at #5 rather than trading down is a no-brainer, as you have said.

If Winston is a great player, we need to take him, because we need a starting quality QB badly.

He could be your next Johnny Football with his attitude and your #1 pick be another questionable pick or draft choice. That's the last thing the FO needs after going 4-12, the safe pick would be Mariotta or wait till the later rounds and draft Brian Hogan Stanford QB.

I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB.

I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB.

Just curious, why don't you think he is a passer???

Character issues would still make him a more athletic Roethlisberger, right?

Yeah, depending on what you define as a character issue.