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Daseal 04-24-2005, 08:38 PM Could the Redskins be moving towards a West Coast offense? We have really fast receivers who can do great YAC, we picked up Musgrave who was a BIG west coast guy, we drafted Campbell who ran a West Coast type offense to almost perfection. It seems to make a bit of sense. I think this could be interesting, I certainly would like to see it.
Maurice Clarett - Everyone knows I like the kid, and Denver can certainly pick RBs. Portis, TD, etc. Will Clarett get any credit if he has a great NFL career with Denver? Or will everyone forever keep blaming him for trying to enter the NFL early.
Do some of these pickups spell the cut/trade of players like Betts, Ramsey, anyone else? I wonder who you think will be traded or cut come the start of the season, especially those having to do directly with our drafting!
go18n20 04-24-2005, 08:53 PM Clarett doesn't fit in the same mold as TD, Clinton, Gary and the other Denver runners, but I do expect him to help out after getting into shape. As for te west coast? Nah. Joe is willing to change HIS offense some... but not that much. As for cuts. I think Betts is gone, Kozlowski is gone, Hasselbeck is gone (unfortunately) and maybe Rock Cartwright is gone. I think Gardner will be back though and that's why we DID NOT draft a receicver, even in the late rounds.
BossHog 04-24-2005, 09:26 PM Betts won't be cut. However, he will be a highly sought RFA after this year if a team hasn't already contacted us about him. He's a prototype NFL back well worth the second rounder we used to draft him. :oink:
skinsguy 04-24-2005, 09:50 PM Musgrave was hired to work with the quarterbacks - not to be an offensive coordinator. With the acquisitions of a couple big running backs/fullbacks in the draft, it reinforces the fact that Gibbs wants to further enhance the run first philosophy. For instance, in the 80's, Gibbs had the featured back, like Byner, who would go out on short yardage plays and replaced by guys like George Rogers or Gerald Riggs. These guys were big fullbacks who could easily move the pile and gain the yard or get across the goal line.
It was a component that was missing from the offense this past season.
skin4Life28 04-24-2005, 10:00 PM Clarett will be fine. He couldn't be a luckier guy to go to Denver. He will flourish in that system. We all know why Musgrave is here. He is gonna call plays there is no way he came here to just do qbs. I dont care what anyone says. Rock wont be gone since we just resigned him. Wouldn't make any sense but nothing surprises me anymore.
EternalEnigma21 04-24-2005, 10:09 PM No, we won't go to a west coast offense, we'll still be a run-first offense, but the passing scheme in our offense is like that of the west coast offense. The routes and passing plays are similar, with short controlled well timed passes, just in this scheme they dont take the place of a run. Musgrave was brought in becase he's widely heralded as a great guy to develop a QB. We need it. I seriously doubt he'll do much more than that.
Clarett probably will be a great back someday, but as for denver having a Prototype Back... thats untrue. Several different style backs have had success in denvers system. Stand Quenten Griffin next to Mike Anderson and tell me they're close to the same. If it weren't for the fumbling and injuries they'd both be pro-bowl backs in that system. I think Clarett went to a place that breeds great backs, and that could actually work to lower his future value, because those that do have a bad taste in their mouths for them will always call his success a product of the system.
As for cuts, Ramsey has a year to prove himself. Betts is here to stay, he ran like an animal last year when they put him in. Brunell probably has a year and he's gone no matter what. Gardner will be back for his contract year (hopefully that'll motivate him to be productive). Cartwright isnt going anywhere just yet, but I dont exactly understand that. Most of our runs came from singleback formations with an H-back in blocking. Cartwright is an excellent FB who can open holes up, but I dont remember seeing much of him last year.
drew54 04-24-2005, 10:10 PM Maybe not a true west coast, but more of a Jon Gruden type WC offensive style merged in with the traditional Joe Gibbs 3 headed monster running attack.
skinsguy 04-24-2005, 10:27 PM Maybe not a true west coast, but more of a Jon Gruden type WC offensive style merged in with the traditional Joe Gibbs 3 headed monster running attack.
It's funny you mentioned Jon Gruden because he said he models his offense after Joe Gibbs' offense.
Daseal 04-24-2005, 10:32 PM Exactly what I meant, not Walsh's west coast offense, but a hybrid. The Falcons run a run-first west coast offense, and I think something like that could be good for us. However, it would certainly need to throw the balls 5-10 more times a game to do this.
drew54 04-24-2005, 10:40 PM It's funny you mentioned Jon Gruden because he said he models his offense after Joe Gibbs' offense.
Where did you hear this? I always thought he was a true WC guy because of his SF and GB upbringing. I know he loves to run the ball. "Pound that Rock"
Thats pretty cool that he tries to model his offense after our glory days.
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