All things off season 2015.


53Fan
04-30-2015, 11:07 AM
Great job JoeRedskin. Great job.

SmootSmack
04-30-2015, 11:10 AM
Losing ST did nothing in the grand scheme in term of Gibbs walking away. Gibbs wasn't dumb. He knew the team was old and that he had no depth. He simply bailed while he could still muster a competitive team. He knew good and well the moves they made were short term and the window had closed. There wasn't anything noble or some higher calling for Gibbs walking away. He simply quit while the getting was good.

NC my man, I think you're confusing the 1st time he left with the 2nd. When he left in '93 it was primarily because the team was old and the salary cap era was underway. 2nd go around was different

Ruhskins
04-30-2015, 11:20 AM
Hey JoeRedskins, I thought about you when I was listening to Andrew Brandt on the Ross Tucker Podcast, and he gave a perfect example of a going BPA scenario in the draft. Back when he was with the Packers, Brandt recalled their decision to draft Aaron Rodgers. They had Favre at QB, which at that point was not having any issues and QB wasn't really a need.

By the time they got to their pick, Rodgers was their highest rated player and the only player with a first round grade left on their board. So without needing a QB, they rolled the dice, went BPA, and the rest is history. I think this is an excellent example of going BPA in the first round.

NC_Skins
04-30-2015, 11:20 AM
NC my man, I think you're confusing the 1st time he left with the 2nd. When he left in '93 it was primarily because the team was old and the salary cap era was underway. 2nd go around was different

Perhaps.


Does this mean I have to admit to the lawyer I was mistaken? God damnit Smoot.

53Fan
04-30-2015, 11:33 AM
No. It shocks me that Jason La Canfora has a job.

Lmao!

Meks
05-02-2015, 07:33 AM
Lol, no hard feelings bro, but yes I do take my favorite legends pretty seriously and its somethin I, obviously, can quickly get fired up about I guess, meant no disrespect, your entitles to your opinion @nc_skins

punch it in
05-02-2015, 10:34 AM
Losing ST did nothing in the grand scheme in term of Gibbs walking away. Gibbs wasn't dumb. He knew the team was old and that he had no depth. He simply bailed while he could still muster a competitive team. He knew good and well the moves they made were short term and the window had closed. There wasn't anything noble or some higher calling for Gibbs walking away. He simply quit while the getting was good.


I totally agree - there was no higher calling for him walking away. That being said The guy is cemented in football lore, i really cant see him bailing because the window was closing. I think your all overthinking this. He was old. He came back for a few years, and simply had enough of coaching.

punch it in
05-02-2015, 10:39 AM
Hey JoeRedskins, I thought about you when I was listening to Andrew Brandt on the Ross Tucker Podcast, and he gave a perfect example of a going BPA scenario in the draft. Back when he was with the Packers, Brandt recalled their decision to draft Aaron Rodgers. They had Favre at QB, which at that point was not having any issues and QB wasn't really a need.



By the time they got to their pick, Rodgers was their highest rated player and the only player with a first round grade left on their board. So without needing a QB, they rolled the dice, went BPA, and the rest is history. I think this is an excellent example of going BPA in the first round.


I didnt know that. I always thought the plan was to grab him and bring him up slowly under Favre. Intetesting. However it is not only an excellent example but Also a miraculous example. There are Im sure a ton of examples for the other side. I dont think you can ever really go 100% BPA or Fill a need in your head while drafting players. If you do you are simply not doing your due diligence with every pick. Gotta weigh every option imo.

HailGreen28
05-02-2015, 01:54 PM
I totally agree - there was no higher calling for him walking away. That being said The guy is cemented in football lore, i really cant see him bailing because the window was closing. I think your all overthinking this. He was old. He came back for a few years, and simply had enough of coaching.Yeah, really stupid for anyone to suggest that Gibbs left because the team got old. The team was old every year in Gibbs 2.0. Each season they relied on signing vets and trading up when they did draft, rather than collect and multiply draft picks. It's ignorant to suggest 2007 was any different in that regard. Seems obvious if Gibbs had stayed in 2008 they would have continued to sign vets with a few draft picks to fill holes, business as usual in Gibbs 2.0.

And despite this approach's flaws, such as overall record, making the playoffs every other year sure looks good now, doesn't it?

MTK
05-02-2015, 01:58 PM
Gibbs left the 2nd time mostly due to his Grandson and Taylor took the wind out of him too. End of story.

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