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REDSKINS4ever
12-26-2014, 08:24 PM
And I recall people saying losing Alexander was no big deal. How did that turn out? Paul and Alexander had some good chemistry on ST and would nail returners.

That cap hit that we took in 2013 really hurt us....if not for that Lorenzo Alexander is still in a Redskin uniform....our special teams suffered....Niles Paul hasn't done jack since Danny Smith and Lorenzo Alexander left......Akeem Davis made a few jarring hits on ST in preseason......Davis has the potential to be the next big thing on special teams.

MTK
12-26-2014, 08:57 PM
They need to scrap the 3-4 defense....outside of Chris Neild who played NT at West Virginia the Redskins never had the correct personnel for it. Kerrigan and Orakpo are natural DEs. Barry Cofield played NT at Northwestern but has spent most of his career playing DT......Jarvis Jenkins is also a natural DT. Jackson Jeffcoat like Orakpo, played DE at Texas.....they need to return to the 4-3 since they have the right personnel for it......and keep Haslett and let him coordinate with this particular personnel in the 4-3.

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DynamiteRave
12-26-2014, 09:30 PM
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Lmao. That is the best .gif to describe a response to that post ever.

Definitely a head scratcher.

DynamiteRave
12-26-2014, 09:45 PM
I can remember when a lot of fans wanted to run Danny Smith out of town..the truth is simple..The skins will start winning again WHEN AND ONLY IF ALL 53 PLAYERS PUT FORTH THE EFFORT THAT TRENT WILLIAMS HAS DONE!!. we can bring in new coach..new whatever..What the redskins need is dedicated players..aint it funny when there back is up against the wall they respond and play good! this team easily could have won 8 games this year.. RGIII has played better since GRUDEN benched him and did not go along with his antics! I say give Gruden another off season ..a good draft and a hungry attitude could turn this thing around in a hurry!

I still don't miss Danny Smith. I know he's rolling in Pitty right now, but he downright sucked for us. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.


Right now, we have a good punter in Tress Way. A reliable kicker in Forbath. We haven't gotten any kicks or punts blocked this year, I don't believe... I could be wrong.

I feel like coaching isn't so much the issue as personnel. We have DJax, who we don't put back to return kicks (kind of understandable). We have Moss who we don't even use, who could be back there making himself useful (Not at all understandable). Instead we're using slow ass Roberts. That dude ain't gonna outrun anyone, as evident in the Giants game.

I'm not sure if things like that are a ST coach decision or a head coach decision, but shit like that could be better fleshed out.

Bishop Hammer
12-27-2014, 12:36 AM
Anyone but Raheem Morris.

REDSKINS4ever
12-27-2014, 04:18 AM
Lmao. That is the best .gif to describe a response to that post ever.

Definitely a head scratcher.

You or MattyK didn't understand what I was saying....in short Orakpo or Kerrigan can play OLBs in a 3-4, but they are better suited as 4-3 DEs with their hands in the dirt....not just Kerrigan and Orakpo, but most of the Redskins OLBs were DEs in college....Most of their defensive front were defensive tackles playing in a 4-3 originally.....thus since they really have mostly 4-3 personnel they should be running the 4-3.....got it?

That Guy
12-27-2014, 06:43 AM
You or MattyK didn't understand what I was saying....in short Orakpo or Kerrigan can play OLBs in a 3-4, but they are better suited as 4-3 DEs with their hands in the dirt....not just Kerrigan and Orakpo, but most of the Redskins OLBs were DEs in college....Most of their defensive front were defensive tackles playing in a 4-3 originally.....thus since they really have mostly 4-3 personnel they should be running the 4-3.....got it?

you know they play a lot of snaps in a 4-3 right? you have watched the games i'd assume...

and kerrigan has 13 sacks and counting now, making him top 5 in the league. so i'm not sure what alternate reality you're getting your facts from, but i'd have to side with matty on this one.

That Guy
12-27-2014, 06:49 AM
I still don't miss Danny Smith. I know he's rolling in Pitty right now, but he downright sucked for us. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.

I feel like coaching isn't so much the issue as personnel. We have DJax, who we don't put back to return kicks (kind of understandable). We have Moss who we don't even use, who could be back there making himself useful (Not at all understandable). Instead we're using slow ass Roberts. That dude ain't gonna outrun anyone, as evident in the Giants game.


our STs here were much better with danny smith than without him. you realize that last year we weren't just the worst ST unit in the league, but the 2nd worst ST unit since they started tracking differentials in 2000 (the worst was the 2002 oakland ST unit).

why they don't use moss is simple, he's not that fast anymore, he doesn't play teams (ie, gunner on coverage) and he's been inactive most of our games. there's no point wasting an active spot on a guy that's not any better than roberts to maybe get 1 more ypr on a grand total of 3 punts in a game. roberts isn't that bad on returns (though he runs E/W too much for sure), though he's definitely not great either.

MTK
12-27-2014, 09:33 AM
You or MattyK didn't understand what I was saying....in short Orakpo or Kerrigan can play OLBs in a 3-4, but they are better suited as 4-3 DEs with their hands in the dirt....not just Kerrigan and Orakpo, but most of the Redskins OLBs were DEs in college....Most of their defensive front were defensive tackles playing in a 4-3 originally.....thus since they really have mostly 4-3 personnel they should be running the 4-3.....got it?

You really lost me on keeping Haz.

3-4 or 4-3 really doesn't matter.

DynamiteRave
12-27-2014, 11:20 AM
our STs here were much better with danny smith than without him. you realize that last year we weren't just the worst ST unit in the league, but the 2nd worst ST unit since they started tracking differentials in 2000 (the worst was the 2002 oakland ST unit).

why they don't use moss is simple, he's not that fast anymore, he doesn't play teams (ie, gunner on coverage) and he's been inactive most of our games. there's no point wasting an active spot on a guy that's not any better than roberts to maybe get 1 more ypr on a grand total of 3 punts in a game. roberts isn't that bad on returns (though he runs E/W too much for sure), though he's definitely not great either.

Last year we were also working with Keith Burns. Who everyone KNEW needed the boot. Last year was inexcusable.

This is Ben Kotwica's first year and like I said we're already doing worlds better in putting, kicking (none of that low chip shot shit) and blocking for both (no kicks or punts blocked). Discipline still needs to be worked on... Still too many penalties and I feel we could use some personnel upgrades.

We are still at the back end of the league in terms of our ST unit, but we aren't making historical records and when you consider how awful the team has been this year overall, and how awful the ST unit was last year, you HAVE to consider that an improvement.


In regards to Danny Smith's ST unit... It wasn't that great either. In 2012 the Skins ranked in the bottom third in both punting, kicking and returns. We were splitting the year with Forbath and Cundiff and if it wasn't for that Forbath pick up, we would have been royally screwed. That was also the year Sav Rocca started getting the weak leg and granted, a good punter is few and far between but we still hung around with him until after the 2013 season.

In 2011, we did great at kick coverage, but didn't have a consistent returner (and we still don't). We also were busy putting the coals to Gano who was busy missing kicks left and right (literally, right? :rofl:)

So without me going back into Redskins lore, what I'm trying to say is. Our special teams has never been what could be considered... Hearty, well-rounded, and consistently good. At some points we've been abysmal and at other points we've been, "Okay". But we've never had a full on, consistent and competent ST unit. The last time I remember us having one was with Lorenzo Alexander but that was because he was practically THE ST unit by himself.

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