Fix the Line Thread

I wouldn't count out Long just yet. He was coming off an injury in college.

Is the jury still out on Moses and Long? I know Moses got injured but he wasn't looking too great either and Long couldn't even beat out Chester throughout the season.

Still have hope for Moses though.

For sure, I wouldnt write anybody off after the first year unless maybe Johnny Manziel

Idk.. Compton has been doing better. He looked better against the Eagles as well. I think it's a little early to throw him out with less than a season of real game time experience.

I think the middle of our O-Line needs more work than anything. I see more guards getting pushed to RG3 face. Chester is getting worse every year and Lav was a terrible pickup.

Agree. Compton hasn't been bad. He has been good in the run game.

Agree. Compton hasn't been bad. He has been good in the run game.

Compton is like most of the lineman that Shanny brought in. Good in the stretch run but not so good at anything else. He struggles with power run blocking and pass blocking 1 vs 1 on a DE or 3-4 OLB. He is a better version of Polumbus. Tall but not that wide. Has good speed for the stretch run blocking. When pass blocking for a QB in the pocket, he either plays the speed rush and will get run over if he guesses wrong, or he has to set up really hard for the bull rush and loses all mobility to stop a speed rush. Hes better than Polumbus, but that doesnt mean a whole lot.

I agree that 3 of the 5 need to be replaced. But while it is cozy to hope that guys like Compton or Long actually develop into real NFL linemen, the safer approach is to go after real high end talent. Our first pick this year should address one of the guard positions or right tackle. Then maybe sign a UFA. Chester absolutely must go !!!

As for defense, first get rid of Hazlett. Then let the new Defensive Coordinator set up a plan for how he wants to proceed.

Letting Chad Reinhart walk still irks me

I agree that 3 of the 5 need to be replaced. But while it is cozy to hope that guys like Compton or Long actually develop into real NFL linemen, the safer approach is to go after real high end talent. Our first pick this year should address one of the guard positions or right tackle. Then maybe sign a UFA. Chester absolutely must go !!!

As for defense, first get rid of Hazlett. Then let the new Defensive Coordinator set up a plan for how he wants to proceed.

I agree with your proposed approach. Just to quibble a bit, I think that Compton and Long may be keepers.

I like that Compton can play both OT positions and I think he's fine as a swing tackle. As for Long, it takes more than a year to come back all the way from a serious knee injury. I don't think we know what we have in him yet. But he's big, tough, and aggressive. In preseason he was able able to get to the second level and do some damage. I think he'll be better next season. He should at least be a solid reserve IMO. Moses could come on, too. We'll see. I'm not saying they'll ever be starters but they could provide solid depth.

I agree completely with you that we should prioritize OL in FA and the draft. Just look what drafting three 1st Round OL has done for Tony Romo and the Dallas running game.

Letting Chad Reinhart walk still irks me

I didn't like that move at the time, either. It was a bad move that hurt our OL.

I agree with your proposed approach. Just to quibble a bit, I think that Compton and Long may be keepers.

I like that Compton can play both OT positions and I think he's fine as a swing tackle. As for Long, it takes more than a year to come back all the way from a serious knee injury. I don't think we know what we have in him yet. But he's big, tough, and aggressive. In preseason he was able able to get to the second level and do some damage. I think he'll be better next season. He should at least be a solid reserve IMO. Moses could come on, too. We'll see. I'm not saying they'll ever be starters but they could provide solid depth.

I agree completely with you that we should prioritize OL in FA and the draft. Just look what drafting three 1st Round OL has done for Tony Romo and the Dallas running game.

Agree 100% with this post. Compton has shown big improvement this year.
If he gets beat out, he'll be a capable backup to both OT spots.

And with Long...when I read about his injury, I was surprised that he was ready for Training Camp. He'll be even stronger next year, with better balance.

I'm in the camp that we should target o-line first, but if we're drafting inside the top 8, I can't see us taking a Guard. My bet is that we take OT, S or D-line or trade back in the first and then take Guard.

The Dallas reference gives me hope that we can turn this around pretty quickly.

LT: Trent Williams
LG: Shawn Lauvao
C: Kory Lichtensteiger
RG: Spencer Long
RT: Cameron Irving