Fix the Line Thread

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Alvin Walton
12-16-2014, 05:59 PM
Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

Rotten1980
12-16-2014, 06:08 PM
Patriots cap figure for their LT is $2.7M while ours is......... $10.9M against the cap.


Patriots cap figure for their RT(Vollmer) is $4.1M while ours (Polumbus) is $2.6M.



We are spending $13.5M against the cap in two tackles while the Patriots are spending $6.8M.


Throwing more money into the tackle positions isn't the answer. Drafting better is.

Williams isn't playing anywhere near his contract/cap price, and won't command same at time of his next deal. But you're right, we're overpaying badly right now at both tackle positions. What you highlight shows why the Patriots are winners.

skinsfan69
12-16-2014, 07:05 PM
Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

Yeah he couldn't beat out Polumbus or Compton. Too early to give up on him but no way is he penciled in as the starting rt.

KI Skins Fan
12-16-2014, 08:07 PM
LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

Could Luvall move to the right side?

I'd prefer that he move back to Cleveland. He was owned by a slow fat guy in the Giants game.

KI Skins Fan
12-16-2014, 08:18 PM
Williams isn't playing anywhere near his contract/cap price, and won't command same at time of his next deal. But you're right, we're overpaying badly right now at both tackle positions. What you highlight shows why the Patriots are winners.

Williams is a fine LT who is playing hurt right now. He would make a ton of money as a FA. He is not overpaid. You're not going to solve our OL problems by dumping one of our best players.

DYoungJelly
12-16-2014, 08:20 PM
We're gonna get killed.

The way I feel is that the Redskins have allowed 53 sacks so far this season. A ridiculous number. No one has really earned a starting spot, save T. Williams but he's been half-assing it because of injury (not his fault, really).

The Skins really need to clean house, especially with Chester and Polumbus. Luvao and Lich I feel are bubble players who'll probably be back next year because we can't ACTUALLY clean house on the starting line completely... Continue to develop Long, Moses and Compton. None of whom should be starting next season unless they make some enormous strides during off-season and pre-season next year. But... I can understand if they do because we can't continue to hold everyone back.

I meant Moses or Compton. They both seem merely average so far, so I hope they have a upside and can be developed.

Long I'm still iffy about because if he can't beat out Chester for starting these last couple of games, that feels somewhat like a red flag because Chester flat out sucks.

Agree with 99% of what you're saying.

The sack number can be spun different ways depending on who ya like.

Griffin has been sacked 10% of total dropbacks. Mccoy and Cousins sacked 4% of total dropbacks. (Stat courtesy of The Drive on espn 980)

Unless there is a vast locker room conspiracy to not block for Griffin, some of it is on the qb.

I really like the way Licht has played this year. 77 was not playing good earlier this year, he still isn't good but he has improved from the beginning of the year.

Chester and polumbus are out based on the cap and performance.

Compton hasn't been terrible, especially in the run (not exactly a ringing endorsement here) but geez when he whiffs, he kills our qb.

Hope Trent can get healthy.

Really like drafting Long, I wish we could see him.

Jury still out on Moses. I took the SF game as a ray of hope because he didn't embarrass himself. The bar has sunk that low.

DYoungJelly
12-16-2014, 08:27 PM
Well, I do agree with Cooley on the issues of the RBs & TEs blocking. I would also add in the wide receivers. I also agree in terms of the quarterbacks holding onto the ball too long.

But, I don't agree that the offensive line is solid. It needs a lot of work.

Listen about everyday. Never heard him say the line was good, just that they are getting a disproportionate amount of the blame.

Cooley blamed 6 of the 7 sacks from the NY game on Griffin.

DYoungJelly
12-16-2014, 08:29 PM
Any indication Moses could move to guard?

drew54
12-16-2014, 08:31 PM
Every spot other than LT should be listed as open for competition.

SirLK26
12-16-2014, 08:53 PM
Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

Yeah he couldn't beat out Polumbus or Compton. Too early to give up on him but no way is he penciled in as the starting rt.

You can't expect a 3rd round rookie to win a starting job in his first season. It's just not reasonable. Even some high-first round linemen have to sit a while before they start. I think Moses has been solid enough in limited action that as long as he recovers in time, he can compete for the job. Nobody's penciling him in as the starter. That would be foolish... as foolish as writing him off as a career backup at this point.

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