Fix the Line Thread

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calia
12-15-2014, 10:00 PM
I sure hope we can re-structure with Trent in a way that makes him want to stay. If he's looking for a way to get to a contender, his salary and our obvious desire to do something about it will create that opportunity.

Yikes.

TheMalcolmConnection
12-15-2014, 10:02 PM
I started posting this and then messed it up by clicking on accident, but a crazy thought: what if we actually did EXACTLY what the draft experts said?

I looked back in the first three rounds over the past five years and honestly we would have had a shot at some GREAT players. Do scouts over-think? Do coaches over-think? It's very hindsight is 20/20 and all that, but are the draft experts so bad? We've gotten some gems for sure, but just glancing at draft boards the past few years, if we followed exactly what was posted, we'd be alright I think. :(

Hog1
12-15-2014, 10:04 PM
There do seem to be some issues in our talent evaluation...
Just not enough keepers...

OnceWeWereKings
12-15-2014, 10:15 PM
I was all for Moses...but after watching people dance past him this year when he was given the opportunity, I already feel like he is a bust. Draft all oline and db this year. If free agents come along. Get them. But don't over pay for fucks sake. We dug stupid holes for ourselves overpaying for useless players. Stop the trend and draft and develop.

Ruhskins
12-15-2014, 10:26 PM
I wish the media would hound the team about this more, instead they are too busy beating the dead horse with the QB position.

Since Danny looks up to Jerry Jones so much, he should notice how the Cowpukes have invested on their o-line, including three first round picks.

Redskin Warrior
12-15-2014, 10:34 PM
We need to spend the next two drafts getting the trenches together. Draft OL and DL because no protection and no pressure = no wins. Along with coaches that bring the best out of players. I read someone posted Bacarri Rambo picked off Aaron Rodgers twice and looks like a different player now he is not in DC. I remember no one thought he would play another down in the league and damn sure didn't believe he would pick off a top 5 QB twice in one game.

ethat001
12-15-2014, 11:10 PM
Wait wait wait..

YES. Our offensive line definitely needs help / redrafting / etc.


BUT:
1) RB/TE: Many of the sacks during the year were due to the RB / TE who SUCK at pass protection. It's our fault for drafting RB who can't block, and the RB/TE coaches fault for not teaching it better. Come on.
2) QB: Many of the sacks are from QB's holding the ball too long.
3) Bad offense/defense: Lack of offensive production leads to 3rd and longs and bad defense leads to playing from behind -- and both lead to more blitzing / more sacks.
4) Scheme - I wonder if more roll outs, more focus on run game, more variety of screen passes -- all would help decrease the sacks.


It's easy to say the O-line sucks and at times they do -- but it's not always their fault.. And finally, we REALLY need to develop our own talent. Bruce hasn't done much, but also hasn't gotten much help from his coaches in developing talent.

Chico23231
12-15-2014, 11:13 PM
Our Oline has giving up 53 sacks already this year, the skins record is 61 for a season. Folks, every single player and coach job should be on the line, including silverback.

drew54
12-15-2014, 11:59 PM
As much new blood as possible will be beneficial. New coaching alone is not going to solve this problem. Chris Foerster, thanks for your time, now here's the door.

It is ridiculous to me that three third round OL haven't been able to break into the starting lineup.

Any free agent signing should be a guy who is 27 or younger. I personally think they should target trading down once to add an additional pick this year in the first three rounds. IMO, unless they are dead set on Scherff or Ogbuehi, trading down makes the most sense. The only way to "win" at the draft, is to have as many picks as possible.

SFREDSKIN
12-16-2014, 01:17 AM
If Gruden returns as reports say and him and RGIII can't co-exist and they trade him. I would look to see if an RGIII for Kyle Long is possible.

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