RG3 and Gruden?


REDSKINS4ever
12-18-2014, 06:27 AM
Cutler
Locker
Bradford

Outside of pure luck, I don't see us finding a franchise QB this offseason. Instead hopefully we'll find a starter who is a competent short-term rental.

That would be Colt McCoy...

KI Skins Fan
12-18-2014, 08:52 AM
Hey guys I'm new to this forum..Is smoot really got this inside info??

The only info you can trust is the "unfiltered" news provided by media outlets owned by Dan Snyder.

DYoungJelly
12-18-2014, 09:00 AM
When did Cooley become the guru everybody looks to for analysis? Still waiting to hear explanation what the fuck the "yips" are lol

RG works best outside the pocket best right now, like it or not. He still misses open receivers, so do a lot of QBs. His technique breaks down under pressure.

All of the above, and he's still the best QB on the roster assuming all were healthy and happy. And scheme/playcalling can minimize his weaknesses, a lot. The funny thing is scheme and playcalling should already look that way based on the REST of the offense, not RG. We have a bruiser RB who doesn't get enough carries to get warm even. We have a smallish, quicker line built to move (like on bootlegs, rollouts and screens) not stand in a perfect half circle to make a pocket.

I've never seen a pro HC work so hard to minimize his teams talents and expose the weaknesses. Not talking Gruden vs RG here. Gruden vs Redskins football team.

Like others have said, looks like he's trying to get fired, if you know what your watching when the ball is snapped.

Pro bowl TE that played a long time in the league at a high level that seems to know what is going on on the field and in the organization from having been there and experiencing it. I guess I don't think it is a stretch that he knows what he is talking about.

Availability is also a factor for his guru status. He does a weekly film breakdown on the offense and defense. I would probably listen to the Rotten1980 film breakdown if there was one to see if it was good.

Somebody linked an article in another thread on the offensive line from a bleacher report beat reporter who splits his time covering English Premier League soccer. It was pretty superficial and lacked context but did make a few obvious points such as having Compton and polumbus as our tackles is bad.

Cooley's analysis is better than Bleacher Report's.

Why don't you think Cooley is worth listening to?

MTK
12-18-2014, 11:04 AM
Anyone who studies film and has played the game is worth a listen IMO. Cooley isn't all knowing but his analysis seems to be pretty accurate and fair the majority of the time.

Hog1
12-18-2014, 11:08 AM
no axe to grind.......seems fair and accurate. Really like his line analysis. Like picks out the things I miss from not running the film over a few times. Like NOT the lineman on that sack, missed assignment on a tight end etc.......
Good Stuff

NC_Skins
12-18-2014, 01:00 PM
Why don't you think Cooley is worth listening to?

Because it doesn't fit his narrative he's been pushing that it's all Gruden and the OL's fault, when the reality of it is that it's his hero's fault. Even Cooley mentions that when fans look at it, they'll just blame the OL, but not the professionals and people that know.





When did Cooley become the guru everybody looks to for analysis? Still waiting to hear explanation what the fuck the "yips" are lol

Yips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yips)

You don't even know what he's talking about, yet you're question HIM on breaking down game film? Amazing. I think I'll take a guy's opinion on game film, who was in the league for a good amount of years and that played at a high level over a fan that's start struck by ESPN highlights of his favorite player.

irish
12-18-2014, 04:06 PM
Anyone who studies film and has played the game is worth a listen IMO. Cooley isn't all knowing but his analysis seems to be pretty accurate and fair the majority of the time.

I agree. Cooley's analysis is good. He calls it like he sees it, the good and the bad is bad. Unfortunately there's more bad now than good. I also think a big reason Cooley's analysis is good is because he's analyzing the team team he played for not so long ago.

diehardskin2982
12-18-2014, 06:14 PM
I'll post it here, if we keep RG3 how would you react to signing Vick as the Third QB?

Michael Vick says playing for Redskins would be a ‘dream come true’ - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/12/18/michael-vick-says-playing-for-redskins-would-be-a-dream-come-true/?tid=pm_sports_pop)


I think if RG stays its a strong possibility that Cousins will be traded. I know a lot of you would blow a gasket if that happened, but call it a hunch...

MTK
12-18-2014, 08:01 PM
Vick would be happy to just have a job. He doesn't seem like Gruden's cup of tea.

Lotus
12-18-2014, 08:14 PM
I'll post it here, if we keep RG3 how would you react to signing Vick as the Third QB?

Michael Vick says playing for Redskins would be a ‘dream come true’ - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/12/18/michael-vick-says-playing-for-redskins-would-be-a-dream-come-true/?tid=pm_sports_pop)


I think if RG stays its a strong possibility that Cousins will be traded. I know a lot of you would blow a gasket if that happened, but call it a hunch...

Just my two cents, but I'd be surprised if more than one of our current QB's (and maybe none) are on the opening day roster next year.

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