SouperMeister
11-30-2014, 10:27 PM
Looked it up.
Kenard Lang back in 1997. First round.Good teams spend high draft picks on big tough linemen on both sides of the ball. I would love a return to an identity of dominating the trenches. I remember Marty passing on future All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson to select WR Rod Gardner in the first round, yet another bust. I'm convinced that Hutchinson, along with Samuels and Jansen entering their prime years, would have been the second coming of the Hogs.
Gary84Clark
11-30-2014, 10:43 PM
Soup if we had a dominating trenches offense the people on this board would complain it's not like Brady, it's not like Peyton..blah blah blah discount double check.
T.O.Killa
11-30-2014, 10:48 PM
Besides Jarvis Jenkins, when is the last hand in the dirt down defensive lineman we have drafted higher than the 5th round? Rounds 1 through 4?
Does anyone know?
Not anybody on our current roster.
How far back do you have to go for our last high round defensive lineman?
Hatcher and Cofield are on the wrong side of 30.
Check out the Patriots, they drafted many first round lineman that have been great.
New England Patriots All-Time Draft History | Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm)
mooby
11-30-2014, 10:57 PM
I know everyone wants someone to single out and blame, but sometimes you're just not good enough across the board, top to bottom. We just suck. F this team.
Once people just accept this, nothing else matters. Join me (and to an extent Matty) on the dark side. We are where we're meant to be. #Fate #Skinslightenment
KI Skins Fan
12-01-2014, 07:58 AM
We have the entire crew from some stupid ass arena football team coaching crappy players, picked using a dart board.
That could explain our situation.
KI Skins Fan
12-01-2014, 08:15 AM
I know everyone wants someone to single out and blame, but sometimes you're just not good enough across the board, top to bottom. We just suck. F this team.
We all know the true answer: It's Dan Snyder.
Schneed10
12-01-2014, 08:41 AM
I blame everyone. Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden, Jim Haslett, Raheem Morris, and every player in the secondary.
I would consider completely cleaning house.
Daseal
12-01-2014, 08:52 AM
I don't buy the "we're just not good enough." I understand that as an answer if we're getting beat. We're not getting beat, we're completely dropping people in coverage.
In regards to the DL question, it's kinda loaded. We've taken a lot of DEs high and transitioned them, somewhat poorly, to LBs. When Orakpo was a rookie he got almost all his sacks from the 4 point stance. We have some great DEs on this team, they just got moved to LB.
over the mountain
12-01-2014, 10:18 AM
for blown coverage i blame, in equal parts:
1. haslett
2. allen (for not adding a FS and thinking adding porter for 4.5 mil was a solution)
3. our secondary players not named breeland or merriweather
our secondary and RT were huge holes going into the offseason.
our secondary and RT were huge holes coming out of the offseason.
our secondary and RT are huge holes going into the next offseason.
so of course we will add more pass rushers to solve the 2 holes.
punch it in
12-01-2014, 10:39 AM
for blown coverage i blame, in equal parts:
1. haslett
2. allen (for not adding a FS and thinking adding porter for 4.5 mil was a solution)
3. our secondary players not named breeland or merriweather
our secondary and RT were huge holes going into the offseason.
our secondary and RT were huge holes coming out of the offseason.
our secondary and RT are huge holes going into the next offseason.
so of course we will add more pass rushers to solve the 2 holes.
This is all so completely on point.
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