The everything Gruden thread

This team is more than a one year project......for anyone.
Dumping Gruden at this juncture would confirm the apparent incompetence of our front office, thus assuring we never have an opportunity to sign a decent coach....

Look at Houston. They have a new HC and have improved over last year with virtually the same players.plus their qb situation is arguably worst then ours.

This team looks similar to last year which tells me it's more on the players. Maybe another guy gets a few more wins out of this group, but at best this is a 6 win team.


At very best.
I also do not think the qb's have regressed under him. Thats bull. They both sucked last year too.

I don't see how any qb situation is worse. Forget athletic talent injury alone has rotated 3 qbs in and out. No head coach is succeeding with this o-line. None period. You can't set deep, 3 steps get batted down, etc etc

This team is more than a one year project......for anyone.

Dumping Gruden at this juncture would confirm the apparent incompetence of our front office, thus assuring we never have an opportunity to sign a decent coach....


Stop being so sensible. That is not the Redskin way. Lets just assume the guy that inherited a complete disaster that took YEARS to build sucks because he wasnt able to turn burning shit into gold bars with no cap money, no first round pick, and the worst DC in history that was "given" to him, in 13 WEEKS! Holy crap everybody.

This team is more than a one year project......for anyone.
Dumping Gruden at this juncture would confirm the apparent incompetence of our front office, thus assuring we never have an opportunity to sign a decent coach....


Putting a new system in place and getting the right kind of people is always a multi-year project. The question is do you have have enough confidence to continue with Gruden? This is classic cost benefit and risk analysis, just be mindful of who your analysts are.

Look at Houston. They have a new HC and have improved over last year with virtually the same players.plus their qb situation is arguably worst then ours.

Same story in Detroit and Cleveland (pre-Manziel lol). Tampa still blows.

Gruden has more talent to work with this year than we had last year and more help all around. Special teams better this. Defense had some strong games this season and we have a legit passrush playmaker in Kerrigan now but defense overall is pretty close.

Gruden was coddled in Cincy folks! Elite defense backing him up with a ton of talent to work with on offense. Elite oline and best WR in pro football.

And most importantly he wasn't tasked to lead anything/anybody. Lewis' players run through walls for him and so do Zimmer's.

Oh yeah lol Zimmer in Minn is another good rookie coach example.

I don't see how any qb situation is worse. Forget athletic talent injury alone has rotated 3 qbs in and out. No head coach is succeeding with this o-line. None period. You can't set deep, 3 steps get batted down, etc etc

There are plenty of teams with bad lines. The Seahawks had 3 no namers step in last season and ball. Perhaps the problem isn't the line but the fact the Redskins:

a) don't know how to coach players up.
b) we don't now how to make adjustments and work around line issue.
c) we don't know how to draft or acquire capable linemen.

I can't remember seeing a Skins team beat themselves so badly week in and week out. We actually have a top-12 offense and defense yet we consistently lose because we consistently do stupid things: miss simple coverages, miss simple blitz pickups, make pointless personal fouls, get kicked out of games, etc.

This undiscipline is on Gruden.