The everything Gruden thread

Yeah, probably overly critical. Doesn't sound like anything more than someone who needs some alone time - to try to wrap his head around how he got "here". I mean no one saw this coming 24 months ago.

I imagine it's hard for him to swallow, but in the end I think benching him will turn out to be the best thing for him. He may not realize it yet, but Gruden does. Robert has to get his head right. He has the physical tools, but mentally he's broken. He has no chance of regaining his mental confidence behind this O-line. Give him a rest, physically and mentally - and make him earn his way back on...sounds like a sound plan to me. And if it doesn't work out next year - move on.

And he is 24, I think that gets lost on people. These are so young with so much pressure. When I was 24 I was just starting my career on a junior level. I certainly was not suppose to be the savour of my company and do it all under the public eye.

Its the everything Gruden thread and I believe that Panda is not a fan.


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.bingo.

i do not believe that he handles himself w the proper cool/calm. in this circus city we need a more daltonian head coach, someone who can answer the questions asked by the press w/o acting personally insulted and then airing some degree dirty laundry.

shut up and lead, same for griff.

Have to be completely honest, I haven't seen anything that justifies bringing Gruden back for another year.
- He is supposed to be an offensive mind, yet the offense has regressed terribly all season.
- He is supposed to be a QB guy, yet the 2 young QB on the roster have not improved, actually gotten worse under him and he's trying to determine if Colt McCoy is the future at the QB position. Colt. Mc. Coy.
- The team is wildly undisciplined under him with personal conduct penalties (personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct), poor effort and way too many blown assignments to count. Add into that the loose culture and locker room from a 3-11 team.
- The team's performance has consistently gotten worse. They haven't competed since (maybe) the Minnesota game.
- In comparison to last year, this season 'feels' worse because there's nothing but apathy and disgust amongst the fanbase. Even as Shanahan was burning his way out of town, at least there was a thought among some that the right guy could turn things around to at least .500. I've never felt nor seen such a lack of hope.
- His talent evaluation skills are highly questionable at BEST, non existent perhaps. Lavaou & Chester still starting? Cutting so many draft picks and free agent signings? Seriously, what the hell is he doing?

I'm done with him and Allen. Blow the whole f'n thing up. Don't maintain continuity for the sake of continuity. This guy is a disaster.

Fire Jay gruden. Seriously he's not that good of a coach and when he said he didn't know moss got kicked out I Lol'd

Have to be completely honest, I haven't seen anything that justifies bringing Gruden back for another year.
- He is supposed to be an offensive mind, yet the offense has regressed terribly all season.
- He is supposed to be a QB guy, yet the 2 young QB on the roster have not improved, actually gotten worse under him and he's trying to determine if Colt McCoy is the future at the QB position. Colt. Mc. Coy.
- The team is wildly undisciplined under him with personal conduct penalties (personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct), poor effort and way too many blown assignments to count. Add into that the loose culture and locker room from a 3-11 team.
- The team's performance has consistently gotten worse. They haven't competed since (maybe) the Minnesota game.
- In comparison to last year, this season 'feels' worse because there's nothing but apathy and disgust amongst the fanbase. Even as Shanahan was burning his way out of town, at least there was a thought among some that the right guy could turn things around to at least .500. I've never felt nor seen such a lack of hope.
- His talent evaluation skills are highly questionable at BEST, non existent perhaps. Lavaou & Chester still starting? Cutting so many draft picks and free agent signings? Seriously, what the hell is he doing?

I'm done with him and Allen. Blow the whole f'n thing up. Don't maintain continuity for the sake of continuity. This guy is a disaster.

The lack of developing players, the cutting of draft picks, and the overall undisciplined feel of the team are reason enough to can Gruden and Allen. The QB fiasco, is entirely on Gruden, the failure to 'coach up' either Griffin or Cousins is certainly icing on the cake, in terms of making the case to fire Gruden. The most egregious issue, and the greatest mistake of the season was keeping Haslett.

We dump Bicarri Rambo, and lo and behold, he has two interceptions of Aaron Rodgers, watch Rambo turn into a decent player for the Bills, while we continue to look for a safety. The lack of player development is astounding, and it appears the Redskins will be NFC bottom feeders for a long time, most likely we are in for back to back 3-13 seasons.

Fire Jay gruden. Seriously he's not that good of a coach and when he said he didn't know moss got kicked out I Lol'd

That was a red flag too. How do you not realize when your players have been tossed? Did you just run into the locker room and not see the scrum? Clown shoes, man.

Yep just a joke. Sucks to be a fan of this crap every yr

The front office essentially got rid of the two Shannys and brought in one Gruden.

This team is essentially the same team that racked up 3 wins from last year. (I realize there have been minor changes.)

You don't change the identity and culture of a team by substituting one guy in. Gruden witnessed a class act in Marvin Lewis in Cincy during his years there. He knows what a winning culture is.

I believe the FO placed too much emphasis on continuity from last year because Gruden was a rookie HC. What ended up happening is the same losing culture and piss poor coaching was carried over.

Other than Jackson, we have the same crappy players bolstered by bad F.A. signings as last year.

Same offensive line except 77. Same defensive line exept 97. Arguably a worse deep secondary.

I have been really disappointed in Gruden as well. I think one of the biggest mistakes he made this year was not taking a timeout before the half at S.F. That was truly a rookie mistake and costs us points in a close game.

If the FO fires Gruden and brings in whoever and maintains the same crappy players and the same crappy coaching staff what should the expectations be next year?

That's exactly what happened last year.

I hope he has an opportunity to shape his coaching staff and personnel to his plan.

That way he fails or succeeds on his own merit, not B.A.'s. Anybody taking the job this year was doomed.

All that being said, I was hoping for more and he has underwhelmed big time. For the life of me, I don't understand why we can't do simple things like get Reed or Paul to block. That one little thing would be huge. Stuff like that aggravates the crap out of me.

One more year is in the cards for him here.

The clock management before halftime should be enough reason for Gruden to be shown the door today. He's not pro HC material, it's blatant.

Hoping Snyder has already started search for Grudens replacement, anybody heard?

Have to be completely honest, I haven't seen anything that justifies bringing Gruden back for another year.
- He is supposed to be an offensive mind, yet the offense has regressed terribly all season.
- He is supposed to be a QB guy, yet the 2 young QB on the roster have not improved, actually gotten worse under him and he's trying to determine if Colt McCoy is the future at the QB position. Colt. Mc. Coy.
- The team is wildly undisciplined under him with personal conduct penalties (personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct), poor effort and way too many blown assignments to count. Add into that the loose culture and locker room from a 3-11 team.
- The team's performance has consistently gotten worse. They haven't competed since (maybe) the Minnesota game.
- In comparison to last year, this season 'feels' worse because there's nothing but apathy and disgust amongst the fanbase. Even as Shanahan was burning his way out of town, at least there was a thought among some that the right guy could turn things around to at least .500. I've never felt nor seen such a lack of hope.
- His talent evaluation skills are highly questionable at BEST, non existent perhaps. Lavaou & Chester still starting? Cutting so many draft picks and free agent signings? Seriously, what the hell is he doing?

I'm done with him and Allen. Blow the whole f'n thing up. Don't maintain continuity for the sake of continuity. This guy is a disaster.

This team looks similar to last year which tells me it's more on the players. Maybe another guy gets a few more wins out of this group, but at best this is a 6 win team.