The everything Gruden thread

Trent isn't the problem.

Hello straw man! Nobody said Trent was the problem.

Hello straw man! Nobody said Trent was the problem.

Then why are we talking about him at all?

Then why are we talking about him at all?

He is implying that it is Gruden's fault that Trent is playing hurt and not doing as well as he has the past two years under Mike.

My beer is flat @#$+*#!{} Gruden!

You really couldn't be more wrong about Trent. That dude is a baller, been playing hurt all year in games that mean nothing, still gives everything he has for this team.

And what if the Redskins can't find any better with regards to head coach? You honestly think guys are jumping at the idea of coming to coach this team? Especially now that it looks like we are back to square one at the QB position. Gotta get back to reality man, this team flat out sucks. We fall flat on our face week in and week out. The skins are 3-17 over their last 20 games with two different head coaches, and 3 different QB's. That's not a sign of bad coaching, it's a sign of a poorly run franchise. I really don't think firing Gruden after one season helps us in anyway.

You bring up a good point about coaching candidates. Maybe looking at Grudens class is helpful? Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Tampa all got new coaches along with DC. The only team with elite talent is Detroit, but every team improved a lot record wise with Tampa an exception. Though they just kicked Grudens teeth in lol. He was the worst hire. Why can't we do better?? That's really what I'm asking, every season quality HC talent is available, why do we have to end up with a loser who's totally over his head. It's zorn.2 but y'all don't want to accept it yet.

Then why are we talking about him at all?

Because he's one of several offensive players who've regressed playing for Gruden. This is Trent's worst year as a pro, is that not obvious to everyone??

His bad year is a symptom of the problem, that's what I'm saying. When your probowl LT is causing penalties left and right, allowing sacks on the QB and looks out of shape and generally sloppy there's a major problem with team leadership. If not the HC, who do you look at??

Because he's one of several offensive players who've regressed playing for Gruden. This is Trent's worst year as a pro, is that not obvious to everyone??

His bad year is a symptom of the problem, that's what I'm saying. When your probowl LT is causing penalties left and right, allowing sacks on the QB and looks out of shape and generally sloppy there's a major problem with team leadership. If not the HC, who do you look at??

He's been dinged up most of the year. I think that's his main issue not the HC. Probably a dozen better reasons you could have pointed out IMO.

He's been dinged up most of the year. I think that's his main issue not the HC. Probably a dozen better reasons you could have pointed out IMO.

Reasons why key players have obviously regressed that don't fall on the offensive HC, let's hear em??

We're all on the same page, Gruden doesnt "do" defense and this is his offense, yes??

Reasons why key players have obviously regressed that don't fall on the offensive HC, let's hear em??

Have we really regressed though? Last year the offense was ranked 23rd in points and 9th in yards. This year we're 22nd and 11th. Mostly the same players, slightly different schemes, same results. Again heading for a top 3 pick.