The everything Gruden thread

I dont get the Gruden hate already.
Hes not even done with his first season.
WTF....I bet you guys walk out of a movie after the first 15 minutes.
Grudens beginning is very similar to Joe Gibbs......

As it is, no one who is qualified should want this job, and now you guys want to fire the 8th coach in 15 years. That does not make any sense.

There is always someone who is qualified who will want to get paid $5MM per year to be one of only 32 NFL coaches in the world.

What has Gruden done to make you think he's worth keeping?

Personally, I think the Redskins should rid themselves of anyone on their staff who has ever had any connection with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or Florida Tuskers. They all suck at their jobs.

There is always someone who is qualified who will want to get paid $5MM per year to be one of only 32 NFL coaches in the world.

What has Gruden done to make you think he's worth keeping?

Personally, I think the Redskins should rid themselves of anyone on their staff who has ever had any connection with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or Florida Tuskers. They all suck at their jobs.

They see those dollar signs and the NFL label. Like Shanahan, dude wanted to get paid, he didn't have a care in the world about winning by the time his tenure was over. I just want a coach who is willing to try to turn a lump of shit into The Hope Diamond come hell or high water.

...and actually try. With a FO that will support him.

I'm done even trying to defend my position on these issues...I'm going to respond with a number for today

6

It's a missing stat in the discussion about today's game it seems.
Sacks.

I dont get the Gruden hate already.
Hes not even done with his first season.
WTF....I bet you guys walk out of a movie after the first 15 minutes.
Grudens beginning is very similar to Joe Gibbs......

If it's a bad movie, I'll walk out.

Gibbs learned fast when JKK threatened to fire him after he lost his first five games. Joe had better players, of course.

They see those dollar signs and the NFL label. Like Shanahan, dude wanted to get paid, he didn't have a care in the world about winning by the time his tenure was over. I just want a coach who is willing to try to turn a lump of shit into The Hope Diamond come hell or high water.

...and actually try. With a FO that will support him.

Now, that there is funny; I don't care who you are.

I'm picturing King Kong squeezing a lump of shit as hard as he can. The new team logo, perhaps?

I liked Grudens honest approach to criticizing players, but at some point he has to detract blame from the players and put it on the coaches.
If not, he will lose credibility.
RG3 was trashed for putting down the team.
Gruden has been given a pass because players dont want to snap back at the head coach but if I'm on offense, I'm wondering where are the harsh words for the special teams and defensive coaching staff.

This is a good ole boy team and we wont see progress till Bruce is gone and we hire the best guy for the job not just some coaching staff that plays well with the GM.

Trent Williams has been playing hurt. He literally limped to the huddle after every play today. He held the guy he was matched up against because he was hurt. Trent did not have a good game overall and had a few bad plays

He was hurt in a game that means nothing he still went out and gave maximum effort. He was chasing the defender down the field after the turnover.

You are wrong about Williams.

I didn't see him limping. Saw him standing still on many plays. At least 2 penalties and I think 2 sacks on him. He also looks about 25 lbs heavier with pure fat around the middle. Slow and unmotivated. But ok we can agree to disagree on Trent.

There's other key players who've regressed under Gruden. Morris. D Young. Garçon. I think the scheme mostly sucks and Gruden doesn't know how to adjust his offense around players skill, which is factor número uno to be a great coach. It's what makes Belichick the best coach on football today. His offensive scheme has morphed around his players, the offense today is thing like what he and Brady did with Moss for instance.

Gruden hasn't shown anything that deserves keeping this job. I can't find one thing he's doing well or better than his predecessor. So it's like if we can't find somebody better, that's a shame. It all starts with the HC.

Trent isn't the problem.

I didn't see him limping. Saw him standing still on many plays. At least 2 penalties and I think 2 sacks on him. He also looks about 25 lbs heavier with pure fat around the middle. Slow and unmotivated. But ok we can agree to disagree on Trent.



There's other key players who've regressed under Gruden. Morris. D Young. Garçon. I think the scheme mostly sucks and Gruden doesn't know how to adjust his offense around players skill, which is factor número uno to be a great coach. It's what makes Belichick the best coach on football today. His offensive scheme has morphed around his players, the offense today is thing like what he and Brady did with Moss for instance.



Gruden hasn't shown anything that deserves keeping this job. I can't find one thing he's doing well or better than his predecessor. So it's like if we can't find somebody better, that's a shame. It all starts with the HC.


You really couldn't be more wrong about Trent. That dude is a baller, been playing hurt all year in games that mean nothing, still gives everything he has for this team.

And what if the Redskins can't find any better with regards to head coach? You honestly think guys are jumping at the idea of coming to coach this team? Especially now that it looks like we are back to square one at the QB position. Gotta get back to reality man, this team flat out sucks. We fall flat on our face week in and week out. The skins are 3-17 over their last 20 games with two different head coaches, and 3 different QB's. That's not a sign of bad coaching, it's a sign of a poorly run franchise. I really don't think firing Gruden after one season helps us in anyway.