The everything Gruden thread


Rotten1980
12-04-2014, 01:38 PM
I agree that Peyton's arm is not the strongest, but certainly you are not equating his arm with Colt's flimsy equipment.

And in my argument I was actually thinking about Pennington. He failed as a franchise QB and became a journeyman backup precisely because of his weak arm.

Here's some optimism: since even a blind squirrel finds a nut, I am hoping that we can be lucky at QB for once. Maybe we will bring in Bradford and he will change and become durable. Or maybe we'll bring in Locker and find that he has finally gotten his act together. Or maybe someone else - QB's are unpredictably released every year.

Pennington started for the Dolphins late in his career and was really good, only injuries held him back. Shoulder injury I think.

Seriously, can't a 28 yr old QB improve his arm with some strength training?? Colt looks like a noodle, get in the effing weight room whitebread.

punch it in
12-04-2014, 01:47 PM
Ryan Leaf was just released from prison. Our qb problem is over! All he did was hit the weights and study our offense for two years. I am so excited. Its not to late to ask Santa for a Leaf jersey either. Its amazing how things can turn around so fast. HTTR!


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Lotus
12-04-2014, 01:59 PM
Pennington started for the Dolphins late in his career and was really good, only injuries held him back. Shoulder injury I think.

Seriously, can't a 28 yr old QB improve his arm with some strength training?? Colt looks like a noodle, get in the effing weight room whitebread.

True. But Pennington was not the Fins anointed franchise QB, he was a we-need-someone starter.

Just like Colt, I liked Pennington. They both read defenses well, get the ball out in rhythm, and take care of the ball. But arm strength limited Pennington's career and it does Colt, too.

BTW I think the Rams' Austin Davis, who I watched a lot in college, is in the same boat. Smart guy, hard worker, accurate short game, but lacking a scary arm.

mooby
12-04-2014, 03:08 PM
I believe that you and mooby have solved the team name issue. We can change the name to Washington Dumpster Fires. The flames logo will look cool.

Brilliant! A fresh start is exactly what this team needs.

skinsfan69
12-04-2014, 03:16 PM
Pennington started for the Dolphins late in his career and was really good, only injuries held him back. Shoulder injury I think.

Seriously, can't a 28 yr old QB improve his arm with some strength training?? Colt looks like a noodle, get in the effing weight room whitebread.

LOL....No. Colt could do all the arm exercises he wants, it won't improve his arm.

VTSkins1961
12-04-2014, 03:28 PM
option 3 - get rid of both of them.... Not saying I would do it....

Report: Jay Gruden is done with Robert Griffin III - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24865895/report-jay-gruden-is-done-with-robert-griffin-iii)

skinsfan69
12-04-2014, 03:30 PM
IMO McCoy does not have an average arm. McCoy's arm is so weak that it is sometimes painful to watch.

Name one HoF QB who had not just a weak arm, but an arm as weak as McCoy's wet paper towel of an arm.

Give the guy SOME credit. Weak arm and all, he's the best QB on the roster. Dan Fouts didn't have a strong arm at all and he's in the HOF.

Bucket
12-04-2014, 03:32 PM
Pennington started for the Dolphins late in his career and was really good, only injuries held him back. Shoulder injury I think.

Seriously, can't a 28 yr old QB improve his arm with some strength training?? Colt looks like a noodle, get in the effing weight room whitebread.

No, but plenty of QB's can play a great game and don't need to throw rockets around the field.

Romo
Wilson
Brady

All of these guys don't have the strongest arms. Still excel.

skinsfan69
12-04-2014, 03:33 PM
option 3 - get rid of both of them.... Not saying I would do it....

It looks like Gruden's going to draw a line in the sand on this one. Should be an interesting off season over in Ashburn.

Rotten1980
12-04-2014, 03:37 PM
option 3 - get rid of both of them.... Not saying I would do it....

Pretty disappointed in both of them, although I still say RG has at least given us some good times, Gruden's been a complete failure so far.

If RG goes to another franchise that coaches him to potential (especially if it's Dallas, meanwhile Gruden fuddles around here without getting results from QB or whoever he turns to next, I hope to God Snyder sees the light and sends Gruden packing with tail pinned to his dumbass.

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