punch it in
12-02-2014, 12:51 AM
G84C was referring to how much more pressure Rak gets than Murphy, and I was agreeing with him on that. I guess I should have quoted his post instead of EARTHQUAKE's.
As for the Jared Allen comparison, I've said twice already that I'm not comparing them skill-wise. I'm saying their styles of play are similar. Someone from CBS Sports made the comparison pre-draft, and I agree with it. Murphy has a long ways to go to reach Allen's skill level, but I like his toughness and smarts and definitely think he can be a solid starter eventually.
Fair enough but lets look at the whole picture - Rak was drafted and paid to do a hell of alot more than he did. Murphy although probably taken a round or two too soon is doing just fine as a rookie (while being coached by one of the bigger jokes of a DC in the league).
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Gary84Clark
12-02-2014, 02:08 AM
Fair enough but lets look at the whole picture - Rak was drafted and paid to do a hell of alot more than he did. Murphy although probably taken a round or two too soon is doing just fine as a rookie (while being coached by one of the bigger jokes of a DC in the league).
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He has no explosion.
Alvin Walton
12-02-2014, 08:31 AM
Pfffttttt....I dont miss Landry and i wont miss Rak.
They both waaaay underachieved for the price we paid, not to mention they were/are IR queens.
punch it in
12-02-2014, 09:05 AM
Pfffttttt....I dont miss Landry and i wont miss Rak.
They both waaaay underachieved for the price we paid, not to mention they were/are IR queens.
Pretty much sums it up. Lets not forget Landrys bone headed personal foul penalties he used to like to get in big moments....
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mooby
12-02-2014, 11:01 AM
Well problem number one is when i tune in for the game on tv the screen has an permanent the image of a dumpster on fire.
I mean, just look at the effort on this play. Simply embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3ZzWKXaU4
VTSkins1961
12-02-2014, 11:04 AM
If Danny boy does fire Gruden then he should fire the entire coaching staff.
If he goes 3-13 then bye bye.
Chico23231
12-02-2014, 11:16 AM
I mean, just look at the effort on this play. Simply embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3ZzWKXaU4
lol....but the question is "who are our fireman" in that video?
I think if Gruden is allowed to implement "his way" without "Danny & the Lackies" (aka the band playing on the sinking titanic) interferring and a new GM...that could be the way to turn the franchise around.
I still want to know, who is responsible for bringing back Haslett and who bullshited everyone with "oh Haslett was never able to run his own show"...that's the first one who would be fired in the FO.
Bucket
12-02-2014, 11:43 AM
lol....but the question is "who are our fireman" in that video?
I think if Gruden is allowed to implement "his way" without "Danny & the Lackies" (aka the band playing on the sinking titanic) interferring and a new GM...that could be the way to turn the franchise around.
I still want to know, who is responsible for bringing back Haslett and who bullshited everyone with "oh Haslett was never able to run his own show"...that's the first one who would be fired in the FO.
I really feel Haslett takes the blows for his defense but idk man. Haslett doesnt blow the simple cover 2 zones and he doesnt miss tackles. I really think with a good safety to playn overtop that is faster than a fullback would be a lot better than.
I enjoy his aggressive scheme and he plays against rivals well. I just thinkn its a player issue more than a coach
Chico23231
12-02-2014, 11:50 AM
I really feel Haslett takes the blows for his defense but idk man. Haslett doesnt blow the simple cover 2 zones and he doesnt miss tackles. I really think with a good safety to playn overtop that is faster than a fullback would be a lot better than.
I enjoy his aggressive scheme and he plays against rivals well. I just thinkn its a player issue more than a coach
problem is then, he had 5 years...why doesnt he have the personel again?
DynamiteRave
12-02-2014, 12:08 PM
problem is then, he had 5 years...why doesnt he have the personel again?
Because we haven't upgraded at all. The defensive backfield in 2010 were:
Kevin Barnes
Phillip Buchanan
Doughty
D. Hall
Chris Horton
Landry
Kareem Moore
Carlos Rogers
Byron Westbrook
Now we have:
D. Hall
Amerson
Biggers
Breeland
Ducre
Minnifield
Porter
Clark
Meriweather
P. Thomas
Trenton Robinson
Akeem Davis (who?)
Most of these dudes are either rookies or flat out suck. No one other than D. Hall and Breeland are no brainer keepers. Amerson and Thomas could be thrown in. Maybe. Everyone else could easily be replaced.
We haven't upgraded since 2010 just side graded; replaced one dude with someone else of equal skills and upside.