No indictment in the mike brown case

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over the mountain
12-01-2014, 11:09 AM
So a man ,6'4 300 ,reaches into a police car and struggles with the Police Officer for his gun(there is no question about this) and proof that the gun was fired in the car (no question) you think there "might be a legitimate fear" for his life ?My question to you is if the cop was dead would you care or would you be talking about this right now .You say you don't trust eyewitness accounts all but one pretty much match the "physical evidence" ,do you trust that ?

the lethal force was used when mike brown was 100 to 150 yards (or feet?) away.

if a person has a stick, an officer gets "in fear of their life" and kills the stick holder with 15 shots.

is a black guy holding a stick objectively more dangerous than a white guy?

the stats say overwhelmingly yes when we know common sense says it should absolutely not matter.

but race does matter in this country with all races contributing to the problem. with all races also contributing to trying to make a positive change.

from what little i know of this particular incident, i dont think the office should have been indicted. in a confrontational situation, i dont know how i would react and dont want to play judge and think i would be calm and rational. of course i havent been trained to handle high stress confrontations and how to use a hand gun and dont get paid good money to do so day-in-day-out but .. .

imo the protests arent necessarily about the facts of mike brown but the alarming statistic of black men/teens killed by police officers.

HailGreen28
12-02-2014, 03:50 PM
the lethal force was used when mike brown was 100 to 150 yards (or feet?) away.

if a person has a stick, an officer gets "in fear of their life" and kills the stick holder with 15 shots.

is a black guy holding a stick objectively more dangerous than a white guy?

the stats say overwhelmingly yes when we know common sense says it should absolutely not matter.

but race does matter in this country with all races contributing to the problem. with all races also contributing to trying to make a positive change.

from what little i know of this particular incident, i dont think the office should have been indicted. in a confrontational situation, i dont know how i would react and dont want to play judge and think i would be calm and rational. of course i havent been trained to handle high stress confrontations and how to use a hand gun and dont get paid good money to do so day-in-day-out but .. .

imo the protests arent necessarily about the facts of mike brown but the alarming statistic of black men/teens killed by police officers.If the cop shot Brown from 100 yds away with a handgun, sign that man up to our olympic team in biathlon or any shooting competition! LOL.

Chico23231
12-03-2014, 03:12 PM
N.Y. cop not indicted in choke hold death - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Un-f*cking-belivable

If i was up in staten isl...i wouldnt hit the steet protesting...id just get a crew of people and about 3am tonight, get a bunch of molatov cocktails, light them, and proceed to firebomb multiple police stations around the area.

over the mountain
12-03-2014, 03:13 PM
If the cop shot Brown from 100 yds away with a handgun, sign that man up to our olympic team in biathlon or any shooting competition! LOL.

he took about 8 shots ...

chico -- that is unbelievable. these prosecutors can get an indictment or not get an indictment if they want. sealed proceedings, any info comes in even if it would be inadmissible at trial, no right to counsel inside the doors etc ...

that NY case is what should be leading this discussion, not mike browns (with all due respect) .. id love to hear what rush, palin etc say about that one.

HailGreen28
12-03-2014, 08:03 PM
he took about 8 shots ...Do you think Brown ran 100 yards away from the cop? LINK (http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/ferguson-brown-timeline/)

And hitting someone once from 100 yds away with a 8 shots of a normal handgun would still be impressive.

Ruhskins
12-03-2014, 08:12 PM
So a man ,6'4 300 ,reaches into a police car and struggles with the Police Officer for his gun(there is no question about this) and proof that the gun was fired in the car (no question) you think there "might be a legitimate fear" for his life ? My question to you is if the cop was dead would you care or would you be talking about this right now .You say you don't trust eyewitness accounts all but one pretty much match the "physical evidence" ,do you trust that ?

If the cop was dead, Mike Brown would be on death row right now.

HailGreen28
12-03-2014, 08:24 PM
Also, is anyone still sure that Brown had his hands up when he was shot? Or could the whole "hands up, don't shoot" thing have been a lie?

Chico23231
12-03-2014, 09:57 PM
Also, is anyone still sure that Brown had his hands up when he was shot? Or could the whole "hands up, don't shoot" thing have been a lie?

U think its ok for the police to choke a man to death on the sidewalk for selling cigarettes? I hope those folks burn down every police station in nyc.

HailGreen28
12-03-2014, 10:42 PM
U think its ok for the police to choke a man to death on the sidewalk for selling cigarettes? I hope those folks burn down every police station in nyc.Another strawman argument, like the Micheal Brown "100 yds away" and "hands up don't shoot". Garner was a big fat ashmatic guy saying "I can't breathe" while being held down and handcuffed. This is after the chokehold/headlock was used when officer in question was trying to take him down like a lion hanging off a buffalo.

The issue should be over taking care of a suspect after being handcuffed, not whether the chokehold/head lock was needed. But so many things seem to get distorted so easy, smh.

And c'mon Chico, you seemed better than your last sentence.

edit: LINK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ka4oKu1jo)

Giantone
12-04-2014, 03:49 AM
U think its ok for the police to choke a man to death on the sidewalk for selling cigarettes?



.........and resisting arrest ,had he not done that he would have been out of jail in hours and still alive .

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