BigRed
04-23-2005, 09:19 PM
Let's face it: We're not likely a playoff team this next year. If Ramsey has a terrible year, we won't resign him. If Ramsey has a terrific year, he's gonna want money we may not be able to afford. Plus after getting dicked around like he has, he may not want to stay here for any kind of money.
It's obvious he's not Gibbs favorite guy and the best thing to do now is get value for the kid while we can. I hate the idea of Brunell starting for a year, but even more I hate the idea of Ramsey leaving at the end of next year for nothing when we should be able to get a MINIMUM of a second round pick for him now. Hell... package him up with Rod Gardener and trade them both for a first rounder next year. Or ship them both to Detroit for one of their WR, since they seem to have an abundance of them now. Get Mike Williams. Have an open competition for QB this year. Maybe Campbell beats out Brunell. But trade Ramsey now (as much as I like him) to get any kind of value out of it we can. It's gonna be much harder to build on nothing when he leaves after the end of next year.
Let's not get too crazy here, Gibbs isn't going to start a rookie, and he's not going to trade Ramsey away leaving him with one vet and a rookie.
Hijinx
04-23-2005, 09:24 PM
Are you nuts? Det isn't going to give us Williams for Ramsey and Gardener. The way the Skins front office trades we might get a 5th round and a stick of gum for both of them.
skinsfan0201
04-23-2005, 09:27 PM
UM no way, why are you sooooo ready to send away a guy that we drafted and are in the middle of developing as our starter this year? Ramsey may not be our guy, but atleast give the guy a chance. This is football, this is reality, I know what Ramsey has been through sucks, but look at Tom Brady, who would have thought he would have been drafted in the 6th round and become what he has. I wonder what would have happened to him if you were coaching. I am hoping like the rest of the fans that the Redskins know what they are doing.
drew54
04-23-2005, 09:33 PM
If anything it will give Ramsey a shot in the arm like Brees last year.
Jon Jansen said everyone was very upset but after Joe sat them all down it made a lot of sense to them.
GoSkins!
04-23-2005, 09:35 PM
I think that drafting Campbell shows that Gibbs is finished with Brunnel not Ramsey. I think that Campbell has the mobility the Ramsey does not have and we live in a world where 2 good QB's on the roster is a must. If Ramsey does great next year, we could always lock him up on a long term contract and trade Campbell for picks in the next draft. If Ramsey bombs, or walks, or gets hurt, we have a better option than Brunnel to step in.
Also, Gibbs wont start a rookie. Even if Campbell was drafted as the new QB, I don't think Gibbs would start him for three years. Gibbs is just too conservative like that.
I'm not sold on the move, but as far a receivers go, Gardner looked pretty good coming out of college and look what happened. I think we have four number 2 receivers instead of a 1 2 3 and 4. We will have to see how that works out (it has worked well in NE).
Daseal
04-23-2005, 09:53 PM
He makes a good point. It may be hard to re-sign Mr. Ramsey. Am I the only one thinking that we may be planning on trading Ramsey and having Brunel be the starter? not that I LIKE this scenario, but I could see it happening.
Daseal
04-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Are you nuts? Det isn't going to give us Williams for Ramsey and Gardener.
Think they'd give up Rogers? They'd rather have a #3 guy who will actually be there.
BossHog
04-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Ramsey would be a restricted FA? In either case, this is the year to show and prove. His NFL career depends on it. :oink:
Hijinx
04-23-2005, 10:15 PM
Oh I agree with the overall theory of BigRed. I cant see anyway in which Ramsey stays.