What exactly was his wonderlic score, I thought it was 16??
Who cares anyway. I'll be honest and say my SAT's stunk in high school (900), and here I am today finishing up my MBA.
Defensewins
04-24-2005, 03:44 PM
The price was too high to get the pick that aquired Campbell. But picking Campbell at 25 is a value pick. People talk about the great QB's coming oput next year. If they are that great they will be top 1 or 2 picks. It is highly unlikley we will have a top 2 or 3 pick next year even if we kept our 2006 #1.
BleedBurgundy
04-24-2005, 03:45 PM
Matty- I agree on some level, that it matters more how he does on the field. But if he really isn't that smart than how do we expect him to make the improvements and adjustments in his game to handle NFL level competition? I'd heard his wonderlic was an 8 and a 16 so if anyone can clear that up, then great... I think Alex Smith had a 40 by comparison.
BleedBurgundy
04-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Write this down, I am against this pick and think that we will not only regret it for having and paying Jason Campbell but for the loss of the picks we traded away to get #25.
monk81
04-24-2005, 03:49 PM
Ramsey in his fouth year is still trying to catch up to the NFL speed.
I don't think you can blame Ramsey on his STILL trying to catch up to NFL speed. Just consider how many head coaches, and how many systems the guy had to endure............blame the Redskin organization......
offiss
04-24-2005, 03:54 PM
Because Ramsey is such an accomplished pro QB?
Ramsey is a slightly above average NFL QB. That is it.
Before the NFL, Ramsey played for for Tulane of the USA conference in college.
Look at Tulane's schedule and record during Ramseys tenure. Terrible. Ramsey's career NCAA and NFL win-loss record is terrible.
I really like Campbell. The jump (in speed) from the SEC to NFLl is not as great at the jump from Conference USA to NFL.
Ramsey in his fouth year is still trying to catch up to the NFL speed.
You can't judge a college QB by wins and loses, the teams are to unbalanced. how many QB's have unbelievable winninf records and don't even get drafted? To many!
Perhaps it's because he played in a college system under SS, and now an outdated system under Gibbs for 1/2 a season I might add, infact Gibbs system went backwards from his first tenure so don't lay our problems at ramseys feet he needs some help from the coaches as well.
Defensewins
04-24-2005, 04:02 PM
I don't think you can blame Ramsey on his STILL trying to catch up to NFL speed. Just consider how many head coaches, and how many systems the guy had to endure............blame the Redskin organization......
That is funny because Campbell had more offensive systems and offensive coordinator changes in the last four years than Ramsey. Campbell had 4 in four years and still did really well.
Because alot of people are calling Campbell mediocre college player I started to read more about the great and incredible Ramseys college career. HiIs team was 1-10 his jr. year and 3-9 his senior year. His biggest career day (stat wise) in college was against Navy. LOL
If you call Campbells career not so spectacular, Ramsey must be labeled as crap.
Yes, Ramsey had inflated stats in regards to yards in college, but look at the teams and defenses he was playing against. Crappy teams.
aehs77
04-24-2005, 04:04 PM
can anybody say Heath Shuler
better than Brunell......everyone back of Campbell, if he was that Dumb then he was smarter than the staff, to convince them to draft him
Defensewins
04-24-2005, 04:08 PM
You can't judge a college QB by wins and loses, the teams are to unbalanced. how many QB's have unbelievable winninf records and don't even get drafted? To many!
Perhaps it's because he played in a college system under SS, and now an outdated system under Gibbs for 1/2 a season I might add, infact Gibbs system went backwards from his first tenure so don't lay our problems at ramseys feet he needs some help from the coaches as well.
I agree you can not judge them on only one stat alone. But in all stats Campbell was very good. Completetion %, TD to INT %, W-L, and most importantly he did all of this against some very good teams, defenses, and talent.
Ramsey on the other had inflated stats against some weak teams. I can tell there are not many future NFL players on the college teams (defenses) that Ramsey played against.