Bucs Postgame Thread

Foerster hasn't done a good job developing our young OL, we currently have 3 3rd rounders collecting dust. Lauvao, Chester and Compton need to be replaced. In addition to Haslett being replaced, so does Foerster.

There is no fucking excuse in the world Chester was brought back, likewise with Bowen on the other side. These guys are clear waste of money and our cap space.

Not like we were stocking up on OL in the first two rounds before that though

And I will say, the hogs were not a group of first round draft picks when bobby Beathard brought them to Washington. But, he was Bobby freakin' Beathard. The man was legend at finding those great late rounders and free agents. So I understand great offensive linemen aren't always in the first or even second rounds, but the 'skins talent evaluators have to be good enough to recognize where and when to find them. And they have not been successful at those mid to late rounders in terms of the offensive line.

It also has something to do with coaching as well. Some coaches can "coach 'em up" and turn an average linemen into a solid guy, but I haven't seen that so far in recent years. Buges - I thought he did OK with what he had here at last.

And I will say, the hogs were not a group of first round draft picks when bobby Beathard brought them to Washington. But, he was Bobby freakin' Beathard. The man was legend at finding those great late rounders and free agents. So I understand great offensive linemen aren't always in the first or even second rounds, but the 'skins talent evaluators have to be good enough to recognize where and when to find them. And they have not been successful at those mid to late rounders in terms of the offensive line.

It also has something to do with coaching as well. Some coaches can "coach 'em up" and turn an average linemen into a solid guy, but I haven't seen that so far in recent years. Buges - I thought he did OK with what he had here at last.

Beathard probably had as many garbage picks as gems. But he gave himself many opportunities to find those gems, which maybe is the key

I mean they're putting everything else first before solidifying the offensive line. In my opinion, the offensive line should be top priority. If it isn't top, first, priority, than anything you do to invest in those skilled positions will be wasted talent. We are seeing this right now. If that isn't true, then the Redskins should be putting up no less than 35 points a ball game with the talent they have at skilled positions on offense. But they're not consistently successful on offense because the protection is shotty.

So, yeah, I think they're drafting the wrong linemen - especially if those draftees can't get off the practice squad without some catastrophe that forces them into the lineup. Outside of Williams, none of those guys have proven to be solid in both run blocking AND pass protection. It's always either/or, or neither. Which means the offense will continue to struggle - which means the defense will have to play more short fields, which leads to more points allowed and fewer scored. That's a recipe for losing.

So yeah, 3 great offensive linemen in 15 years. I'd say the offensive line has most definitely been ignored.

Really good post. As much as I hate the Cowboys you have to give Jones and Co a lot of credit for building a badass oline the last few years, and it's working.

Romo likes to hold onto the ball, but he is good at moving out of the pocket. The line really really sucks, but like Griff said its a team effort. Morgan Moses was maybe a good pick, but he needs alot of development, something we dont do well.

Beathard probably had as many garbage picks as gems. But he gave himself many opportunities to find those gems, which maybe is the key

He sure did. Anyone remember Tory Nixon?

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

I am going with a large dose of No.1 and a sprinkling of No.2. I blame scouting/personnel b/c I think the Forrester and Gruden are solid coaches. Are they stellar, Forrester, no. Gruden, it's year 1 but he has been very successful in all past stops.

I always thought scouting was a strength. Wasn't one of the knocks on Shanny - by Allen - that he overruled the scouts? Was it just a case of the blind leading the blind??

Beathard probably had as many garbage picks as gems. But he gave himself many opportunities to find those gems, which maybe is the key

And maybe it could be, simply, that the front office just hasn't given themselves enough opportunity (because of cap space, cap penalties, lack of high round picks) to find those gems as well. I'd love to think it's simply a lack of opportunity - but I think it's more than just a lack of opportunity.

I mean they're putting everything else first before solidifying the offensive line. In my opinion, the offensive line should be top priority. If it isn't top, first, priority, than anything you do to invest in those skilled positions will be wasted talent. We are seeing this right now. If that isn't true, then the Redskins should be putting up no less than 35 points a ball game with the talent they have at skilled positions on offense. But they're not consistently successful on offense because the protection is shotty.

So, yeah, I think they're drafting the wrong linemen - especially if those draftees can't get off the practice squad without some catastrophe that forces them into the lineup. Outside of Williams, none of those guys have proven to be solid in both run blocking AND pass protection. It's always either/or, or neither. Which means the offense will continue to struggle - which means the defense will have to play more short fields, which leads to more points allowed and fewer scored. That's a recipe for losing.

So yeah, 3 great offensive linemen in 15 years. I'd say the offensive line has most definitely been ignored.

Well they brought in a new left guard, they drafted two guys, Chester is another FA, to me I think they're trying. It's just that the people they're bringing in aren't any good. Long doesn't even dress so that should tell you something right there.

There is no fucking excuse in the world Chester was brought back, likewise with Bowen on the other side. These guys are clear waste of money and our cap space.

This. Allen's personnel moves have failed more often than not, all the way around.