Bucs Postgame Thread

Granted it was a bit unleaderlike to call out his team, but he's got a point though

This is a team that sucks across the board

for all the talk of talent and skill on this team, it hasn't shown it, and it can't all be put at the feet of one guy (heck the team lost a bunch of games while he was out)

Reading the quotes of the presser, to me it looks like RG3 said "we all suck". He probably could've chosen better words, but whatever.

Outside of D. Jax and Tress Way, no one on this team has played well.

Then there's more from DeSean:



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/desean-jackson-joins-robert-griffin-iii-in-ripping-redskins-teammates-162943745.html


Hope we see some of the turds in the locker room flushed this offseason. Clearly not everyone is on the same page. When DJ is calling guys out that's not good at all.

The same mental mistakes happened under Shanahan. Picking and then developing players is something we don't do well if at all.

I agree with skinsguy. After drafting Jansen #2 in 1999 and Samuels #1 in 2000, Trent Williams is the ONLY offensive lineman drafted in rounds one or two since. In 14 years. Think about that.

Not like we were stocking up on OL in the first two rounds before that though

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

Hope we see some of the turds in the locker room flushed this offseason. Clearly not everyone is on the same page. When DJ is calling guys out that's not good at all.

Seriously. Seems to me that the locker room culture is one where "I'm good enough" is an acceptable opinion.

Good points from Keim:

Second thoughts: Washington Redskins-Tampa Bay Buccaneers - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/13012/second-thoughts-redskins-bucs?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

Foerster hasn't done a good job developing our young OL, we currently have 3 3rd rounders collecting dust. Lauvao, Chester and Compton need to be replaced. In addition to Haslett being replaced, so does Foerster.

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

Ignored how? You mean they're drafting the wrong linemen?

I mean they're putting everything else first before solidifying the offensive line. In my opinion, the offensive line should be top priority. If it isn't top, first, priority, than anything you do to invest in those skilled positions will be wasted talent. We are seeing this right now. If that isn't true, then the Redskins should be putting up no less than 35 points a ball game with the talent they have at skilled positions on offense. But they're not consistently successful on offense because the protection is shotty.

So, yeah, I think they're drafting the wrong linemen - especially if those draftees can't get off the practice squad without some catastrophe that forces them into the lineup. Outside of Williams, none of those guys have proven to be solid in both run blocking AND pass protection. It's always either/or, or neither. Which means the offense will continue to struggle - which means the defense will have to play more short fields, which leads to more points allowed and fewer scored. That's a recipe for losing.

So yeah, 3 great offensive linemen in 15 years. I'd say the offensive line has most definitely been ignored.