Jay Gruden you are our only hope

Cousins and McCoy have played way more games, thrown more passes and have been sacked less. Yes, we need some upgrades, but a lot of this is on Griffin. He's over 30 starts in and still can't recognize a blitz, can't stop holding on the ball and still back peddles when he's pressured.

The guy is playing scared, doesn't want to get injured again. Lack of confidence. OL doesn't help either

I would say that I am equally concerned that Jay took this job knowing how his hands where going to be tied. (I am assuming he brought up his desires as a head coach during the interviewing process). We should be concerned about the FO that does this but we should also be concerned about the HC who thinks this is acceptable to work under.

The one constant is the mismanagement within the offices of the Redskins during the Snyder era. Not only by Dan, there are a gang of others.

The guy is playing scared, doesn't want to get injured again. Lack of confidence. OL doesn't help either

RG3 pocket awareness is terrible, he gets happy feet and starts to feel pressure that isnt there as the game goes on. So even when he has time, he feels he doesnt. Has a hard time pre snap and has a hard time seeing the field. Jay needs to move the pocket more for him, but he doesnt for some reason.

The guy is playing scared, doesn't want to get injured again. Lack of confidence. OL doesn't help either

Well then sit his ass down. If he comes out like this against SF then put in McCoy or KC. Guys were running wide open yesterday and he just didn't pull the trigger.

The reason I titled the thread "Jay Gruden you are our only hope" is because I think Gruden has what it takes to win long term, if and only if, he has the balls to make hard decisions (Griffin, Haz, etc). I hope he does, if not, it will be the same thing year after year. Haz is a huge issue with me, he has never had a top defense, by any stat (not just yards)

As for Allen – I have no idea if he or Shanahan is responsible for the roster; I am not sure anyone not in the room really does. I do know we started to address the Oline the last 2 years, so I am willing to wait on another year or two to see if we keep our own drafts or not (Riley, Robinson, Kerrigan, Amerson) and see if any of the O line drafts replace vets in the next year or two. I guess I am saying I am willing to give Allen three years of him running the show to see how it plays out. I am not saying I am optimistic, I am not saying I am not; I just want to see what happens.

At least Special Teams continues to get better (minus Forbath)

As to the Apocalypse Now quoter.....yes this thread is a Star Wars quote.

Well then sit his ass down. If he comes out like this against SF then put in McCoy or KC. Guys were running wide open yesterday and he just didn't pull the trigger.

Next week RGII will be like a human pinata, Aaron Lynch on one side and Aldon Smith on the other. Lynch is a 5th round rookie playing like an all-pro (steal of the draft).

Well then sit his ass down. If he comes out like this against SF then put in McCoy or KC. Guys were running wide open yesterday and he just didn't pull the trigger.

cant sit him, we have to coach him and play him to see results. makes zero sense to play colt. cant play, wont learn

Cousins and McCoy have played way more games, thrown more passes and have been sacked less. Yes, we need some upgrades, but a lot of this is on Griffin. He's over 30 starts in and still can't recognize a blitz, can't stop holding on the ball and still back peddles when he's pressured.

This is what's frustrating. This blind belief that no matter who is on the bench, he's better than the QB on the field. So we cherry pick statistics to find something to justify our belief. But this is just ridiculous. Okay, RGIII gets sacked more than Colt and Kirk. But he throws more touchdowns, throws fewer interceptions, completes more first downs, completes a higher percentage of his passes, averages more yards per reception, and has a much higher QB rating. But he gets sacked more, so yeah, let's make that the only statistic that matters.

Let's compare McCoy to Griffin. McCoy has thrown nearly 25% fewer passes but has managed to throw more interceptions. McCoy averages a TD every 34 passes, RGIII averages one every 25. McCoy has completed less than 60% of his passes, RGIII has completed 64% of his. McCoy averages 6.5 yards per attempt, RGIII 7.5. It's not a comparison; RGIII is a superior QB; he's a superior pocket passer. It's enough to just recognize that RGIII is not a great QB and that we will probably have to move on, but to get delusional about it and add to the cacophony of nonsense that surrounds this organization just simply isn't helpful.

The problem is that you assume we think RG3 is the next Joe Montana. Thats not it at all. What we are calling the problem is developing the QB. It doesnt matter who you draft at this point. We wont develop them. You want to draft a few QB's a year and watch them falter for 20 or 30 more years. I want to fix the development problem so we dont have 20 or 30 more years of this. Whether that is with or without RG3, I dont really care. I just want a functional team.



RG3 could have been developed properly and still can. But until we decide that actually developing a QB is more than signing DJ, it wont matter.



And will people stop talking about Colt McCoy's performance against Dallas as anything spectacular. We scored 19 against the Titans and 20 points against Dallas, a worse defense than we scored 26 on the very next week with RG3. Colt loses the minny game as well. The defense showed up against both the titans and cowboys. Surprise.... Defense matters.



RG3 had a bad game against the Bucs, but if we cut everyone that had a bad game against the bucs, then the only members of the Redskins organization that is left is Alfred and the cheerleaders.


Alfred and the cheerleaders sounds excellent to me! Lol
I completely hear what you are saying. I know that you think he isnt being developed.
What I am saying is that regardless of his athleticism I dont think he has it in him to ever be anything even remotely resembling Joe Montana. What I am saying is that no matter who we bring in to develop him he is what he is. A supreme athlete that will never be a great or even really good passing qb. Maybe one day he will shock me whether it is as a Redskin or not. Who knows? My only point about Colt was that he seemed to have a feel for the offense once he got rolling. I dont think he is the long term answer by any means. If he had Roberts arm strength well than....
I disagree about our inability to develop a qb. It just has to be the rite one. Ramsey, JC - it isnt like they left the Skins and excelled. Who else are we talking about? Brunell - dudes best years were behind him. Jon Beck? Lol. With Robert we finally had a top pick and used it on a qb. He simply isnt what we hoped imo. Huge blunder but one we had to take a shot on. It isnt working. Its that simple. Sucks, but it is what it is. Im wanting to eat crow man. Im starving for a big ole crow sandwich!

Put Colt in or Cousins in, then we will back again trying to develop Griffin after the season. Have to ride it out, there isn't alot of talent on this team anyways.