Jay Gruden you are our only hope

I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but this particular game was winnable and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?

Id wait for the film breakdown to see how often moses was left 1 on 1 in situations when he shouldnt have.

Was it supposed to be quick pass plays when he was left 1 on 1?

Did a TE or RB occasionally blow his assignment of chipping or staying and helping? our TE blocking has been pretty bad this year.

Did we have to give Moses help on every single passing play?

A lot of unknowns.

Pretty sure Helu will be found guilty of forgetting his responsibilities on that last play.

Also, SF's offense is really bad, that is Griffin with a much better offensive line. Kaepernick does alot of the same stuff Griffin does, but he has alot more confidence. So our defense better not forget what Tampa just did to them.

I think Snyder is the main cause, but others bear some responsibility too.

The Haynesworth deal, tying up so much money, I agree that's on Snyder and Cerrato (and Mara for the bogus cap penalty when the Skins got out from under it).

The RG3 pick, I think that's on Mike Shanahan, as is our lack of talent. I don't think Shanny did that bad a job, but our OL and other position problems are currently Mike's responsibility (maybe in a couple years say its Allen or Gruden's lineup?).

And the RG3 pick could have still worked if Griffin Jr and Sr had listened to the famed head coach that picked him, and kept running the system Mike and Kyle whipped up for him. Guess we know now it wasn't the read option that was getting RG3 banged up and hurt. He's still a pinata back there, and can mess up his ankle just jumping up and down.

Yeah, I agree, should have put McCoy in. Shame, because if only Griffin would play like it was 2012, he could lead us to wins, while building on his pocket skills.

All the leaks point to shanny wanting cutler, manning and then tannenhill. But i dont care who made the decision. the answer will not help the skins going forward imo. we made an organizational decision to go all-in on a chance at a franchise QB .. and it didnt work out. i still like the decision to do what you can to land a potential HOF at the QB position. when posed with a similar decision in the future, I hope the answer is yes. albeit, a better scouted decision.

I dont think the 2012 formula was sustainable. what the shannys' did in 2012 was magical. it was special. the combination of RO, shanny's zone blocking scheme, Alfmo being a perfect zone runner .. lead to many of RG3's first and only read being wide open. in 2012 you heard rumblings that Kyle wanted RG3 to be better at reading the field but had to limit his passing plays to just be focused on one half of the field to simplify it for RG3.

To a certain degree, when it came to the roster, we have been handicapped by the penalty the last couple of years. Going forward, I think BA needs to be held to a higher standard.

With that said, the Luavo signing is the only one I think was a complete wash because better guards for the same price were available. For an amount comparable to what we spent, we could have had Asamoah or Beadles. Both would have been solid additions, particularly Beadles as we was from Denver's zone blocking scheme. At the same time, there wasn't a whole lot of talent out there.

As for Porter & Clark, they were in positions of high demand - particularly Clark. As much as I originally wanted him, glad J.Byrd got his bazillions from someone else. It was frustrating to watch Delmas, Whitner, Ward & Jenkins all go for what seemed affordable contracts. At the same time, between injury concerns, age and prior play, none of these seemed a particular upgrade except possibly Ward. Still wish we had taken a flyer on Delmas, but the others have not demonstrated that the FO's opinion was all that wrong. Bottom line, Clark was the leftover on a pile of warmed over mediocrity.

As for Porter, he was intended to be a cheap slot corner - at most. Never saw him as anything other than competition for the 3rd CB position with no guarantee to even make the roster - that he did speaks volumes for the lack of young depth. Our starters were supposed to be Hall and Amerson. Well, that didn't go as planned. At the same time, Breeland is getting some great experience and next year, our top three should be Amerson, Breeland with (hopefully) Hall coming in as the 3rd CB and/or generic DB depth. I am good with that. Breeland & Amerson as the top 2 going forward makes me really, really happy. Throw in Hall as depth/slot corner and we have a real strength going forward.

To me, it is hard to judge Roberts, I still like him. I think he plays solid and runs good routes - but drops some balls he shouldn't.

Jackson & Hatcher - great & good signings. D.Jax fell into our laps and I am glad BA pounced on it. Hatcher has been very good at times and is part of D that has a lot of solid players but no real playmakers.

We overbid on no one and most of us were pretty happy with that. I am hopeful that in the future we continue to look ot the draft (mainly) for parts, lock up our good young players, and resist the urge to win the offseason. It may not be much, but that is - IMHO - one of the few non-dysfunctional things the team has done lately (UFA frugality) and, hopefully, something that they continue to build.

Better scouting seems to be needed but we have had a lot of mid-round hits of late and (other than potentially RGIII) not a lot of busts (Robinson, Breeland, Alf Mo, Helu).

With all that said, - I just don't know how this team makes it out of the quagmire of "bad team land."

Id wait for the film breakdown to see how often moses was left 1 on 1 in situations when he shouldnt have.

Was it supposed to be quick pass plays when he was left 1 on 1?

Did a TE or RB occasionally blow his assignment of chipping or staying and helping? our TE blocking has been pretty bad this year.

Did we have to give Moses help on every single passing play?

A lot of unknowns.

Moses and Long at oline were both seen a project picks where it might take several years. I dont see Moses as a surprise...actually thought overall he was better than expected yesterday.

Moses and Long at oline were both seen a project picks where it might take several years. I dont see Moses as a surprise...actually thought overall he was better than expected yesterday.

yeah i didnt think moses was horrible horrible. he was actually better than i expected considering who he is at this early stage and who he was going up against.

Porter and lauvau - both were questionable signings at the time. Porter is by far our highest paid secondary player. browns fans were really surprised a team pounced on lauvau and were happy he was gone ... we see why. he is just a body out there. like many have said. le rib or gettis or mo hurt could just be a guy out there for a lot less money ... that could have been used to sign Ward!

missing out on ward - i admittedly dint know much about his game but he seemed like the perfect guy to add at the time .. not a high high priced guy (signed for 5 mil per?) like Bryd (50+ mil?) but was young, plays well and was let go bc of salary crunch not performance. Ward was the smart man's solution to FS ... and we totally whiffed.

clark - we dangled a basically vet min 1 yr contract to clark who left it on the table for weeks until he saw that he either signed with us or retired for lack of league interest. Clark is what he is. a player that quite frankly, no one else wanted. hopefully he is a valuable contributing member to our young players from Monday to Saturday.

How is that RT from the bucs that the raiders signed panning out? i forgot his name but was disappointed we didnt add him to RT for the next 2 years. He was a LT for the Bucs so he would have been perfect to slide over to LT now that Trent is hurt ...

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

Well said.

I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but this particular game was winnable and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?

No, I didn't conveniently overlook the idea of bringing in Colt. I'm just simply looking at this from a level head. The Redskins were still in a position to win the ball game, and RGIII was given a chance to respond. With all the crap that went on in the media prior to the game, this was the best thing for Gruden to do - and that's to stick with Griffin and give him a chance to play through his struggles. Griffin had a golden chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans and his coaching staff. He didn't get the job done. Let's be realistic. The Redskins' season was over when they lost to Tampa Bay. You spend several #1 picks on a quarterback, you expect him to win you ball games in the situation the 'skins were in yesterday. Gruden needed to know if Griffin could pull this game out. He didn't.

I'm not even going to address the idea of leaving a back or TE in to block. Many of those sacks Griffin took were because he held onto the ball too long. There were receivers open. Griffin just can't react quick enough. His speed in 2012 covered up a lot of his mistakes. He no longer has that speed, so he has less room for error.

I believe in Gruden. He's sitting in a situation he never would have imagined when signing on here and he's handling it well, as much as people don't believe.

He's exactly what the Redskins as a franchise need.

He's not going to let a QB, who's been in the league less than 3 years, run his team.

He's not going to allow anybody who misses team meetings (Amerson) to play on Sunday. Even if we're hurting at that position.

He's also not guaranteeing anybody a job because they're starters this year. Each and every player on this roster is going to EARN their spot. (Seattle anybody??)

We finally have a coach who is going to set the tone and get his players to respect and buy in to HIM. This is a team sport and he's not going to allow any players to rise above that fact.

Anybody who wants to get rid of Gruden needs to realize that this is what we've done for the past 15 years and where are we? We FINALLY have a competent coach who can motivate (the right) players. Getting rid of him starts yet ANOTHER rebuild which we don't need.

We need consistency and cohesiveness. Gruden can establish that.

Great post. On the money.

Gruden can't run the team, so saying he's not going to let RG3 run the team begs the question

Who will run it?