Jay Gruden you are our only hope

Let Gruden pick a QB in the draft and trade RG3. Prediction: Gruden 2 seasons and done.

Gruden needs another couple of seasons. There's a difference between a 3-8 coach who has shown a lack of competency, and a 3-8 coach who's trying to work with what has been given to him. Let's face it, RG3 lost the ball game yesterday. He was clearly the weakest link. I surprised McCoy didn't enter the game.

Gruden needs another couple of seasons. There's a difference between a 3-8 coach who has shown a lack of competency, and a 3-8 coach who's trying to work with what has been given to him. Let's face it, RG3 lost the ball game yesterday. He was clearly the weakest link. I surprised McCoy didn't enter the game.

Gruden lost that game by not inserting McCoy and not giving Moses any help or bringing in Palumbus and moving Compton to LT. He was content to let RGIII fail and lose the game in the process. Then he blamed the offensive players afterwards. That makes Gruden a loser in my book. That was a winnable game. I couldn't care less if Gruden were to resign tomorrow, if that is his attitude.

Gruden lost that game by not inserting McCoy and not giving Moses any help or bringing in Palumbus and moving Compton to LT. He was content to let RGIII fail and lose the game in the process. Then he blamed the offensive players afterwards. That makes Gruden a loser in my book. That was a winnable game. I couldn't care less if Gruden were to resign tomorrow, if that is his attitude.

LOL! Trent Williams, our only pro bowl linemen, had his hands full with Aldon Smith that last time the 'skins played the 49ers. What makes you think Compton would have faired any better at left tackle than Moses? Anyone who had the task of going up against Smith would have failed. There's no competent adjustments Gruden could have made on the offensive line. None. And don't even speak of Polumbus. LOL!!!

RGIII failed on his own. I understand he doesn't have all day to sit back and wait for a receiver to come wide open, but RGIII made a bad offensive line look even worse. Gruden gave Griffin plays to help build his confidence, and RGIII couldn't answer the bell. He even started mixing in some read option, and Griffin couldn't failed. I've been as big of an RGIII supporter as anybody on this forum, but even a blind man can see that RGIII just doesn't get it.

Gruden lost that game by not inserting McCoy and not giving Moses any help or bringing in Palumbus and moving Compton to LT. He was content to let RGIII fail and lose the game in the process. Then he blamed the offensive players afterwards. That makes Gruden a loser in my book. That was a winnable game. I couldn't care less if Gruden were to resign tomorrow, if that is his attitude.

You keep saying the same thing. Why would you replace a player with a worse one? You can just switch Tackles like they are corners

The Problem is not GRUDEN..It was never Shanny..it all is on SNYDER and The great Vinny! Looking back the RGIII pick should have never gone down..way too much to give up and the team had huge holes in other areas..what we are seeing now is the fruits of BAD decisions made years ago. How will they fix this mess you ask..well they need to fes' up and admit the blunder and move on..(RGIII is not the only top college Qb to fail in the NFL)..Lets say RGIII stays and Gruden goes..okay ..WHAT COACH WOULD EVER TAKE THIS JOB??..not a smart one for sure! RGIII IS DONE in washington. he may very well go someplace else and play okay but he is done here. The big question is what now?? whatever they do you cannot give the future away for one player! The rules in the NFL are so in favor of the offense that a journeyman type QB can have success.. Nobody has ever said RGIII is not a GREAT ATHELETE ..WAY BETTER than Colt ..but you know what if Colt had started every game this year we would most likely be in the mix instead of 3 wins i believe we would have 6 maybe 7 wins right now.. Remember we wasted games on Cousins. The coaches have total given up on RGIII ..he most likely will not start next game or if he does he will be pulled quick ..I say McCoy behind a better OLINE is way better than this RGIII mess..AT LEAST Colt has the understanding and can read the defense , that alone is a huge upgrade.

LOL! Trent Williams, our only pro bowl linemen, had his hands full with Aldon Smith that last time the 'skins played the 49ers. What makes you think Compton would have faired any better at left tackle than Moses? Anyone who had the task of going up against Smith would have failed. There's no competent adjustments Gruden could have made on the offensive line. None. And don't even speak of Polumbus. LOL!!!

RGIII failed on his own. I understand he doesn't have all day to sit back and wait for a receiver to come wide open, but RGIII made a bad offensive line look even worse. Gruden gave Griffin plays to help build his confidence, and RGIII couldn't answer the bell. He even started mixing in some read option, and Griffin couldn't failed. I've been as big of an RGIII supporter as anybody on this forum, but even a blind man can see that RGIII just doesn't get it.

I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but this particular game was winnable and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?

Bucket, see my post directly above ^. He didn't need to switch tackles but he should have done something to win this game. You're letting Gruden off the hook too easily for this particular failure.

The Problem is not GRUDEN..It was never Shanny..it all is on SNYDER and The great Vinny! Looking back the RGIII pick should have never gone down..way too much to give up and the team had huge holes in other areas..what we are seeing now is the fruits of BAD decisions made years ago. How will they fix this mess you ask..well they need to fes' up and admit the blunder and move on..(RGIII is not the only top college Qb to fail in the NFL)..Lets say RGIII stays and Gruden goes..okay ..WHAT COACH WOULD EVER TAKE THIS JOB??..not a smart one for sure! RGIII IS DONE in washington. he may very well go someplace else and play okay but he is done here. The big question is what now?? whatever they do you cannot give the future away for one player! The rules in the NFL are so in favor of the offense that a journeyman type QB can have success.. Nobody has ever said RGIII is not a GREAT ATHELETE ..WAY BETTER than Colt ..but you know what if Colt had started every game this year we would most likely be in the mix instead of 3 wins i believe we would have 6 maybe 7 wins right now.. Remember we wasted games on Cousins. The coaches have total given up on RGIII ..he most likely will not start next game or if he does he will be pulled quick ..I say McCoy behind a better OLINE is way better than this RGIII mess..AT LEAST Colt has the understanding and can read the defense , that alone is a huge upgrade.I think Snyder is the main cause, but others bear some responsibility too.

The Haynesworth deal, tying up so much money, I agree that's on Snyder and Cerrato (and Mara for the bogus cap penalty when the Skins got out from under it).

The RG3 pick, I think that's on Mike Shanahan, as is our lack of talent. I don't think Shanny did that bad a job, but our OL and other position problems are currently Mike's responsibility (maybe in a couple years say its Allen or Gruden's lineup?).

And the RG3 pick could have still worked if Griffin Jr and Sr had listened to the famed head coach that picked him, and kept running the system Mike and Kyle whipped up for him. Guess we know now it wasn't the read option that was getting RG3 banged up and hurt. He's still a pinata back there, and can mess up his ankle just jumping up and down.

Yeah, I agree, should have put McCoy in. Shame, because if only Griffin would play like it was 2012, he could lead us to wins, while building on his pocket skills.

Look at what Bruce brought in with his first round of free agents:

Luavao - We could get the same performance from a back up like McRib. Has not helped one bit.

Porter - Like Luavao, I told people Porter would be a horrible signing

Roberts - I like it, but we havent gotten any consistency from the offense nor the special teams for him to shine. So his impact has been minimal

Ryan fuckin Clark - bigger disaster than originally thought. missed tackle to end the game was appropriate

DJax - hands down the allstar of the group...great signing.

Hatcher - I still like this signing, Im bringing him back next year.


My biggest problem with Bruce is the job he failed to due in regards to ignoring the TE position where we have suffered mightly and keeping Chester and Polumbus on the roster. These decisions have killed us.


Jay doesnt have alot to work with folks with wide gapping holes are ignored in the offseason or guys with bring in arent producing.