Jay Gruden you are our only hope

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Chico23231
11-20-2014, 09:56 AM
Could Gruden be one and done in Washington? | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/20/could-gruden-be-one-and-done-in-washington/)

Penned directly by Florio for no other reason to just pile on the Skins.

If Florio passes tomorrow i wouldnt shed a tear, might even crack a smile

punch it in
11-20-2014, 10:17 AM
So now Gruden is basically told to apologize and point out that he was a bad little boy for blaming one guy. Fuck that Griff deserves to be called out. Neither Jerry Jones nor Danny Boy are qualified to make football decisions, but at least Jerry is not hiding behind closed doors doing it. This is sickening. Just sickening.

Bucket
11-20-2014, 10:20 AM
So now Gruden is basically told to apologize and point out that he was a bad little boy for blaming one guy. Fuck that Griff deserves to be called out. Neither Jerry Jones nor Danny Boy are qualified to make football decisions, but at least Jerry is not hiding behind closed doors doing it. This is sickening. Just sickening.

He shouldn't of called RG3 out. Yet, I didn't have a problem with it. He should stick to speaking as a whole rather calling someone out.

punch it in
11-20-2014, 10:21 AM
Here is part of the problem. We scored 26 against Minny, including an 80 yard 4th quarter drive when Minny had driven for a TD themselves. Only to let Minny do a second length of the field drive in the 4th quarter to beat us. The defense gave up 15 in the 4th quarter, they straight up crapped the bed as bad as RG3 did against Tampa Bay.



We win that game pretty easily if a crappy offense led by a rookie QB missing their best player doesnt score 15 points in the 4th quarter with not 1, but 2 70+ yard 4th quarter drives.



For as much as people keep referencing what Cooley said about RG3 this week. In that same article Cooley says he thinks RG3 played pretty well against Minny. He certainly wasnt the reason we lost.


You are forgetting that if our offense is clicking it keeps our terrible defense off the field. We won three games this year - all were without Griff. You play the guy who gives u the best chance to win. Not the guy who the owner has a man crush on!

punch it in
11-20-2014, 10:24 AM
He shouldn't of called RG3 out. Yet, I didn't have a problem with it. He should stick to speaking as a whole rather calling someone out.


Maybe so but to be made to go back and apologize with ur tail between your legs just makes our coach look like a puppet and our qb look like a spoiled kid who got upset and had DADDY Snyder make things rite. That is the public perception of how this all went down now even if Griff had nothing to do with it. We just keep digging the hole deeper. No effin free agent or coach is going to want anything to do with this shit show of an organization.

Bucket
11-20-2014, 10:30 AM
Maybe so but to be made to go back and apologize with ur tail between your legs just makes our coach look like a puppet and our qb look like a spoiled kid who got upset and had DADDY Snyder make things rite. That is the public perception of how this all went down now even if Griff had nothing to do with it. We just keep digging the hole deeper. No effin free agent or coach is going to want anything to do with this shit show of an organization.

Because you are making the Franchise QB value go down by saying things like that. The NFL is a business first, and when you under value a player who has marketing worth. It'll be a bad thing. I'm sure that is what Snyder said to Jay.

I don't think he "spanked" him at all

BaltimoreSkins
11-20-2014, 10:34 AM
What you describe is not dysfunctional. It is standard management practice in countless businesses. Gruden has bosses and he is obligated implement the instructions of those bosses.

What we have here is Round 105 of discussing what we think the management structure of the Redskins ought to be. If we have a HC who has complete authority (Shanahan) then we argue that there ought to be a GM over him. If we have a HC reporting to a GM (Gruden) then we argue that the GM shouldn't tell the HC what to do.

I think it is more a question of why we see repeated poor decisions being made and the accountability of those decisions. Whether the management practice is sound means nothing if the decisions from those practices are ineffective.

Chico23231
11-20-2014, 10:36 AM
He shouldn't of called RG3 out. Yet, I didn't have a problem with it. He should stick to speaking as a whole rather calling someone out.

While I agree behind closed doors is always the way to go, I thought in a way it was kind of refreshing to hear it from our HC to this DC media. Because it basically trumped a their narrative.

Also, Gruden doing that was much more acceptable than RG3 deflecting blame. In the lockerroom, Gruden scored a ton of points.

punch it in
11-20-2014, 10:38 AM
Because you are making the Franchise QB value go down by saying things like that. The NFL is a business first, and when you under value a player who has marketing worth. It'll be a bad thing. I'm sure that is what Snyder said to Jay.



I don't think he "spanked" him at all


Griff is doing a good enough job making his value go down. I think it is safe to say 10 jerseys arent flying off the rack like they used to. As far as his value to other teams...well other gm's are quite capable of seeing what he is worth on their own. You may not think he got spanked but that is the public perception and on nfl sirius radio that was what I heard the entire way to work this morning. Me and a million other people. Cant make this shit up. You really cant.

BaltimoreSkins
11-20-2014, 10:41 AM
Maybe so but to be made to go back and apologize with ur tail between your legs just makes our coach look like a puppet and our qb look like a spoiled kid who got upset and had DADDY Snyder make things rite. That is the public perception of how this all went down now even if Griff had nothing to do with it. We just keep digging the hole deeper. No effin free agent or coach is going to want anything to do with this shit show of an organization.

The perception of this franchise to the fans and media has taken serious hits lately. Personally I would like the media to ask more challenging questions to BA. The players and the coaches are always on the hot seat time to put the FO on it.

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