Jay Gruden you are our only hope

Who?

Kerrigan, Coefield, Hatcher, arguably Keenan

Kerrigan, Coefield, Hatcher, arguably Keenan

I doubt any of them would start right now for Az. Hatcher has been pretty normal the last few games. Kerrigan has taken a step back it seems. He has disappeared completely in a few games this year, although started real hot. Cofield isnt either, Az is strong on the Dline. Keenan... maybe. He has really played well this year but Az also has a pretty strong LB corps.

Az has one of the best defenses out there. Ours is not even in the same conversation.

On a side note. If a lot of you get your wish and Gruden is gone. I would really love if the skins took a long look at Todd Bowles as a HC candidate.

I doubt any of them would start right now for Az. Hatcher has been pretty normal the last few games. Kerrigan has taken a step back it seems. He has disappeared completely in a few games this year, although started real hot. Cofield isnt either, Az is strong on the Dline. Keenan... maybe. He has really played well this year but Az also has a pretty strong LB corps.

Az has one of the best defenses out there. Ours is not even in the same conversation.

On a side note. If a lot of you get your wish and Gruden is gone. I would really love if the skins took a long look at Todd Bowles as a HC candidate.

Coefield > Dan Williams
Hatcher > Frostee Rucker
Kerrigan > Acho & Okafor

Cardinals are great at doing more with less. They plug & play. You plug those 3 into that defense and I just don't believe their guys would play better than ours.

Keenan vs. Foote is the only real argument IMO. Young potential vs. proven vet, not sure Foote is on that roster if they already had Keenan.

I can see Robinson, Kerrigan, Orakpo, Hatcher, Breeland, Cofield, Amerson starting in Arizona and playing great. Bowles could make Orakpo what everyone expected.

I can see Robinson, Kerrigan, Orakpo, Hatcher, Breeland, Cofield, Amerson starting in Arizona and playing great. Bowles could make Orakpo what everyone expected.

This.

Coefield > Dan Williams
Hatcher > Frostee Rucker
Kerrigan > Acho & Okafor

Cardinals are great at doing more with less. They plug & play. You plug those 3 into that defense and I just don't believe their guys would play better than ours.

Keenan vs. Foote is the only real argument IMO. Young potential vs. proven vet, not sure Foote is on that roster if they already had Keenan.

I'd have to agree.

Basic point is we're not totally devoid of talent. That's what makes the losing all the more frustrating.

I can see Robinson, Kerrigan, Orakpo, Hatcher, Breeland, Cofield, Amerson starting in Arizona and playing great. Bowles could make Orakpo what everyone expected.

Didn't consider Orakpo because of injury, but I agree 100%.

Not sure that Breeland or Amerson have the stuff to start over Cromartie yet - they'd be a lot better in that system though so who knows.

I'd have to agree.

Basic point is we're not totally devoid of talent. That's what makes the losing all the more frustrating.

And we have a shit ton of talent on offense, minus 3 OL positions. WR, TE, FB, RB and LT are all stacked, maybe as good as any in the league.

But those three holes on the oline are terrible, and there's no depth whatsoever. Allen still gets a low grade, and given his coaching searches, it just seems like Allen doesn't have what it takes.

Are we really talking head coach change again?? Vince Lombardi himself could come out of the grave, and he would go 5-11 with this dysfunctional organization.

And we have a shit ton of talent on offense, minus 3 OL positions. WR, TE, FB, RB and LT are all stacked, maybe as good as any in the league.

But those three holes on the oline are terrible, and there's no depth whatsoever. Allen still gets a low grade, and given his coaching searches, it just seems like Allen doesn't have what it takes.

That's why I say start the 3rd rounders, let's see what they can do. Leribus is probably better than Lauvao and Long is smart and plays with a chip in his shoulder, something Chester lacks.