Redskins vs Vikings Gameday thread

I need to stop reading your comments, they are only depressing me.

Reality sucks.

This.

Is Doc saying the same thing Russell is saying?

What is Doc saying?

I think Griffin is burning a lot of bridges. I think he's sensitive and insecure and while he has the support of the most important person in the organization, if he doesn't produce he'll quickly lose that support.

I understand why he's insecure but he kind of has to get over it


I get that he's a prima donna and, sure, he may be insecure (I'll take your word for that). Strikes me as something not unusual in the QB position.

I guess it's just easier to blame RGIII than anyone else for all the other crap that I've seen out of this team. Can't cover passes in a normal scheme. Can't create TOs. Can't block in the middle of the line. Hell, if Garcon is pissed off, why can't he catch the ball that RGIII drops into his breadbasket from 40+ yards? DJax does it.

Losing is awful in many ways. It brings out the worst in many of us. BUt this is the road we're on. The management is committed to RGIII, for OBVIOUS reasons. Are you really gonna cut him loose to preserve locker room harmony among a bunch of guys who most other teams simply do not want? That would be stupid FO thinking, IMO, even if RGIII is insecure and "burning bridges." He's going to be here for another few seasons, until we know for sure he CAN'T play at this level.

As for Gruden and the offensive staff, is there reason to think they do not want RGIII at this point? Really? I don't buy it.

Winning cures all ills, but there's no shortcut, alas, for our team to get to winning on a regular basis. We're still a number of players off, notably at safety, O-line, and D-line (IMO). Stick to RGIII and build. What better course of action do we have? Back to the Jeff Beck era?* No thank you.

edit: John Beck! Lol. One of these guys used to play for us. The other played for the Yardbirds.

I think Griffin is burning a lot of bridges. I think he's sensitive and insecure and while he has the support of the most important person in the organization, if he doesn't produce he'll quickly lose that support.



I understand why he's insecure but he kind of has to get over it


Um...wow....again.
He is insecure because Gruden didnt want to play him?

What is Doc saying?

I dunno I'm asking, I know Doc can be dismissive of what Russell says.

Gruden's calling out everyone on his presser (players/coaches), including himself. At the end of the day, this was a team loss. I don't know why fans fail to realize that. If this team is going to have any wins, players have to make plays and coaches have to scheme better. We can't have an offense that starts out very slow and misses scoring opportunities in the first half or a defense that can't make key stops at the end.

Gruden's calling out everyone on his presser (players/coaches), including himself. At the end of the day, this was a team loss. I don't know why fans fail to realize that. If this team is going to have any wins, players have to make plays and coaches have to scheme better. We can't have an offense that starts out very slow and misses scoring opportunities in the first half or a defense that can't make key stops at the end.

It was definately a team loss, you can point a finger at every part of the team.

Reasons we lost:
1. We're just not very good
2. Rg3 is still learning the system and how to be a pocket passer in general. I was hard on him yesterday when a little (lot) drunk. He played pretty well minus 2 big plays. The int before half and the 4th down McNabb pass in the 4th.
3. Our pass blocking stinks. We need new starters at LG, RG and RT.
4. We have zero pass rush unless we blitz everyone. We need an elite pass rusher.
5. Our safeties can't cover anyone. Neither can the LBs. Backup tight ends were kicking our asses yesterday.
6. Haslett sucks, Dallas was one of his fluke games.

Gruden's calling out everyone on his presser (players/coaches), including himself. At the end of the day, this was a team loss. I don't know why fans fail to realize that. If this team is going to have any wins, players have to make plays and coaches have to scheme better. We can't have an offense that starts out very slow and misses scoring opportunities in the first half or a defense that can't make key stops at the end.

So, seeing the twitter reports from Gruden's presser.

Seems he is calling out RGIII and, essentially, telling him to man up. Paraphrasing Gruden quotes - "gotta have thick skin to play QB in the NFL"; "working hard then reading reports saying how everyone hates him"; "some young Redskins have fragile egos".

Reasons we lost:
1. We're just not very good
2. Rg3 is still learning the system and how to be a pocket passer in general. I was hard on him yesterday when a little (lot) drunk. He played pretty well minus 2 big plays. The int before half and the 4th down McNabb pass in the 4th.
3. Our pass blocking stinks. We need new starters at LG, RG and RT.
4. We have zero pass rush unless we blitz everyone. We need an elite pass rusher.
5. Our safeties can't cover anyone. Neither can the LBs. Backup tight ends were kicking our asses yesterday.
6. Haslett sucks, Dallas was one of his fluke games.

The refs!!!!!