RG3 is back

Where is the evidence that Snyder is overriding anyone?

I hate Snyder, as a person and owner of my favorite team, as much as the next guy. But that talking point gets thrown around a lot with ZERO to back it up.

Yes, if Snyder is overriding the coach then that's a problem. But it's a different problem.

I think we can beat Minnesota with McCoy. I think Griffin gives us a significantly better chance and it's not even close. At 3-5 we don't exactly have the luxury to go with McCoy if Griffin is ready - unless you've given up on the season.

It cracks me up how hard people are falling over McCoy. The same people that were gushing over Cousins. Some of them were saying Griffin's injury was a blessing in disguise for Gruden so he could start the quarterback he really likes.

It's all a bunch of nonsense.

I am factoring that in, I'm just factoring it in as realizing the **entire team** has struggled all year up until the Dallas game. Even the Titans game was just bad, bad football; we won, but it was bad football by both teams. The defense had been putrid outside of the Jacksonville game until Dallas. The Special Teams was again striving for worst in league history; again until Dallas.

If we're to have a season all 3 phases of the team need to be on the ball. That includes Griffin. Seasons change on a whim. Momentum is a bitch. We may finally have some good momentum for the first time this year.




To me, when a coach says the guy is ready, that means:
He's medically cleared and not at risk to injure himself
He's physically good, movement/mechanics are not going to be limited
He's got enough reps with the offense to be on the same page as them
In Griffin's case, due to his age and possition, I'd add: He's not in a state where he's likely to revert to bad habits/mechanics or someone stunt his growth (or even damage it) as a young quarterback.

So if he's ready. He's ready. If he's not ready and Gruden says he's ready, then we have a problem at the HC position.

I think Gruden is saying that right now for Griffin:

"He's medically cleared and not at risk to injure himself
He's physically good, movement/mechanics are not going to be limited"

But maybe not that:
"He's got enough reps with the offense to be on the same page as them"

And I think some of the concern is that he hasn't mastered his mechanics, and or gotten rid of bad habits.

So, what I'm getting is that you, like everyone else, dont think RG3 should start unless he is fully prepared. So, I'm not sure where the disagreement is.

Where is the evidence that Snyder is overriding anyone?



I hate Snyder, as a person and owner of my favorite team, as much as the next guy. But that talking point gets thrown around a lot with ZERO to back it up.



Yes, if Snyder is overriding the coach then that's a problem. But it's a different problem.



I think we can beat Minnesota with McCoy. I think Griffin gives us a significantly better chance and it's not even close. At 3-5 we don't exactly have the luxury to go with McCoy if Griffin is ready - unless you've given up on the season.



It cracks me up how hard people are falling over McCoy. The same people that were gushing over Cousins. Some of them were saying Griffin's injury was a blessing in disguise for Gruden so he could start the quarterback he really likes.



It's all a bunch of nonsense.


Well a win is a win. No style points in the nfl. So in my mind there are a couple different scenarios. One - colt wins and keeps the season alive while Griff prepares for the home stretch and gets two more weeks to do so. Two - griff starts and looks better than Mccoy and wins.
Ofcourse either one could also shit the bed and we could lose but eff that. Lol.
So im simply taking the cautious way out here and giving Griff more time. If i had a crystal ball and knew RG-3 was going to show up strong this Sunday than of course lets get this ship rolling with the man at the helm. I dont. I said already that the fan in me wants Griff to start because I know he is the future of the franchise. But in the back of my head something tells me to give him two more weeks of prep time.

Here's a question I heard. Which I initially thought was stupid and i laughed. Then.... I started to wonder... Does rg3 make that sideline pass to reed that colt did so amazingly? Or does he take off, Fall, get hurt or fumble?
He's gotta get past his awkwardness with this system and how he's trying to become a pocket passer... He's looked awkward all season, I just hope he gets over it, and crushes the vikings. I'm fine with either qb starting on Sunday, but an extra week off that ankle couldn't hurt either ..

Where is the evidence that Snyder is overriding anyone?

Personally, I've heard from more than enough people to believe strongly that either Snyder (and his associates) or Allen (or both?) is putting a lot of pressure on Gruden to play Griffin ASAP (just like when they told him he had to start him at the beginning of the year

I hate Snyder, as a person and owner of my favorite team, as much as the next guy. But that talking point gets thrown around a lot with ZERO to back it up.

He's no bigger jerk than Ted Leonsis, I don't have a problem with him

Yes, if Snyder is overriding the coach then that's a problem. But it's a different problem

Let the coach sink with his own ship, I guess

I think we can beat Minnesota with McCoy. I think Griffin gives us a significantly better chance and it's not even close. At 3-5 we don't exactly have the luxury to go with McCoy if Griffin is ready - unless you've given up on the season.

If Griffin shows that he's not ready on Sunday, it will be disastrous for the organization. Could be a franchise altering loss

It cracks me up how hard people are falling over McCoy. The same people that were gushing over Cousins. Some of them were saying Griffin's injury was a blessing in disguise for Gruden so he could start the quarterback he really likes.

Not me. I said from the start Cousins would be exposed as nothing more than a career backup. But yeah Gruden really did like him

It's all a bunch of nonsense.

Where's Rex Grossman when you need him?

"Personally, I've heard from more than enough people to believe strongly that either Snyder (and his associates) or Allen (or both?) is putting a lot of pressure on Gruden to play Griffin ASAP (just like when they told him he had to start him at the beginning of the year"

You think Jay wanted to possibly start someone else at the beginning of the year?

You make a great point if Rg3 doesnt play well and its a bad loss at Minny.That would put alot of people at conflict within the organization im sure.

I dont see rushing RG3 if he is not ready. Makes no sense

So, what I'm getting is that you, like everyone else, dont think RG3 should start unless he is fully prepared. So, I'm not sure where the disagreement is.

There are people saying even if he's ready sit him because:
bye week
McCoy's performance against Dallas.

My point is - if he's ready, you play him. Until he proves he's not as good as McCoy.

Personally, I've heard from more than enough people to believe strongly that either Snyder (and his associates) or Allen (or both?) is putting a lot of pressure on Gruden to play Griffin ASAP (just like when they told him he had to start him at the beginning of the year


More than enough epople that you personally know that are in a position to know that sort of thing?

Or more than enough people in the media?

"Personally, I've heard from more than enough people to believe strongly that either Snyder (and his associates) or Allen (or both?) is putting a lot of pressure on Gruden to play Griffin ASAP (just like when they told him he had to start him at the beginning of the year"

You think Jay wanted to possibly start someone else at the beginning of the year?

You make a great point if Rg3 doesnt play well and its a bad loss at Minny.That would put alot of people at conflict within the organization im sure.

I dont see rushing RG3 if he is not ready. Makes no sense

Didn't I mention this before the Seahawks game? Maybe I only told the other mods. Yes, know this from very very very reliable sources who have known Jay Gruden for a looooooonggggggg time. He thought RG3 was not ready for week 1 and wanted to start Cousins against Houston

There are people saying even if he's ready sit him because:
bye week
McCoy's performance against Dallas.

My point is - if he's ready, you play him. Until he proves he's not as good as McCoy.

Not trying to be contentious, but who is saying that?