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Lotus 11-04-2014, 01:07 AM On quick timing plays yeah. But if you noticed even when Cousins was playing he threw picks when he had too much time. ON play action there are no quick releases. On deep routes there are no quick releases. I think Gruden calls different plays when RG3 is in the game. Sooner or later the o-line has to block. Even when Cousins was QB, Polumbus is what really ruined his career.
Cousins threw picks because of erratic accuracy and poor decisions, not because of timing.
BTW on play action and deep routes there still typically are quick release opportunities to safety valves. And you can still throw the ball away, much of the time anyway, even if no safety valve is available.
Think what you want. But my guess is that Gruden is constantly talking to RGIII about timing. This is not a new concept - Jerry Rice is a HoFer in part because of the YAC he got from a timing based offense.
Gary84Clark 11-04-2014, 02:43 AM No one is calling for RGIII to do stupid things. But he has plenty of room to speed up getting the ball out. And quickly and safely throwing the ball away beats a sack every time.
Gruden's offense is based on timing which leaves receivers getting lots of YAC. A slow delivery from the QB gums up the works pretty badly.
On quick timing plays yeah. But if you noticed even when Cousins was playing he threw picks when he had too much time. ON play action there are no quick releases. On deep routes there are no quick releases. I think Gruden calls different plays when RG3 is in the game. Sooner or later the o-line has to block. Even when Cousins was QB, Polumbus is what really ruined his career.
JoeRedskin 11-04-2014, 04:56 AM On quick timing plays yeah. But if you noticed even when Cousins was playing he threw picks when he had too much time. ON play action there are no quick releases. On deep routes there are no quick releases. I think Gruden calls different plays when RG3 is in the game. Sooner or later the o-line has to block. Even when Cousins was QB, Polumbus is what really ruined his career.
Clearly, a conspiracy is afoot.
JoeRedskin 11-04-2014, 04:59 AM Of course he calls a different game - Griffin can do things KC can't. At the same time, if you don't think timing is a large part of Gruden's offense, well, we have been watching different teams.
and, sorry, several of Kirk's INT's had nothing to do with how much or how little time he had in the pocket. Many were quick but errant throws.
Chico23231 11-04-2014, 09:15 AM Easy to see why Luck is so much farther ahead than RG3, growing up in a pro style offense at Stanford vs an Art Briles college gimmick offense.
skinsguy 11-04-2014, 09:35 AM Of course he calls a different game - Griffin can do things RGIII can't. At the same time, if you don't think timing is a large part of Gruden's offense, well, we have been watching different teams.
and, sorry, several of Kirk's INT's had nothing to do with how much or how little time he had in the pocket. Many were quick but errant throws.
Huh?
JoeRedskin 11-04-2014, 09:41 AM Huh?
lol ... cut me some slack. It was 4:00 a.m. and I was in an insomnia induced haze.
Corrected.
Chico23231 11-04-2014, 10:46 AM http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/steelers-call-out--dirty-player--terrell-suggs-for-diving-at-legarrette-blount-s-knees-163908126.html
i missed this and i dont know if im late, but damn that looks dirty. No way Suggs can justify that
Ruhskins 11-04-2014, 10:58 AM http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/steelers-call-out--dirty-player--terrell-suggs-for-diving-at-legarrette-blount-s-knees-163908126.html
i missed this and i dont know if im late, but damn that looks dirty. No way Suggs can justify that
I really don't care for the Ravens or Suggs for that matter, but to me that doesn't seem dirty. Suggs is a tall guy and in today's NFL you have to aim at the mid section; Blount I would imagine is a short guy. At least in the angle shown here, Suggs ends up hitting him around the hip area; also the ref blows the whistle just as Suggs is making his tackle, so the play was still live.
Chico23231 11-04-2014, 11:01 AM I really don't care for the Ravens or Suggs for that matter, but to me that doesn't seem dirty. Suggs is a tall guy and in today's NFL you have to aim at the mid section; Blount I would imagine is a short guy. At least in the angle shown here, Suggs ends up hitting him around the hip area; also the ref blows the whistle just as Suggs is making his tackle, so the play was still live.
I think since his progress looks pretty much stopped and Suggs goes from standing still to throwing his shoulder at the thigh/knee area its dirty. If Blount knee got slightly turned while the hit was in progress, Suggs ends his season. I think its dirty
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