Is Brian Orakpo career as a Redskin possibly over

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Counter-Tre
10-20-2014, 03:54 PM
I would say he is done. Guy can't stay healthy unfortunately. Farewell 1/2 Sackpo.

mooby
10-20-2014, 03:56 PM
Until Murphy proves himself I think it's a legit concern.

Yup. Haven't seen the impact out of Murphy yet that I hoped for. Now would be a great time for him to shine, it would show that we have one less problem to worry about for next year.

NC_Skins
10-20-2014, 04:14 PM
I'm still amazed at how many fanboys think that Rak is our best defensive player... :doh:

NC_Skins
10-20-2014, 04:16 PM
I'd at least make a modest offer to Rak, but if someone wants to pay him more so be it.

What is your idea of a "modest" contract? Just curious at the numbers involved.




Me, I said last year 9.5mil/yr was about all I would be willing to offer, but I overshot that by a lot. I wouldn't offer him anything over 5.5-6mil/yr to be honest.

CrazyCanuck
10-20-2014, 04:31 PM
90% chance Orakpo is gone next year.

70% chance he signs in the NFC East.

50% chance he burns us at some point in the future.

JoeRedskin
10-20-2014, 04:44 PM
What is your idea of a "modest" contract? Just curious at the numbers involved.




Me, I said last year 9.5mil/yr was about all I would be willing to offer, but I overshot that by a lot. I wouldn't offer him anything over 5.5-6mil/yr to be honest.

What's the going rate for 3-4 OLB's that do nothing spectacularly but several things well? Who, due to injury, have missed the majority of two of the last four years?

I guess 5M/year. I dunno. I was thinking 4 yrs @ 4m/yr, 8M SB or something along those lines. I have no clue if that is realistic or a vast overpayment.

MTK
10-20-2014, 04:55 PM
What is your idea of a "modest" contract? Just curious at the numbers involved.




Me, I said last year 9.5mil/yr was about all I would be willing to offer, but I overshot that by a lot. I wouldn't offer him anything over 5.5-6mil/yr to be honest.

Maybe 6 or 7 per... although if Murphy shows he's capable just let him walk

JoeRedskin
10-20-2014, 05:09 PM
Maybe 6 or 7 per... although if Murphy shows he's capable just let him walk

... and to be capable, he needs to show (1) an ability to cover in space; and (2) that he can keep folks from consistently doubling Kerrigan and/or Hatcher.

By the end of the year, if Murphy can win some 1 on 1's as a rusher and handle the coverage duties of an OLB in a 3-4 system w/o being a liability, Rak is pretty much superfluous.

JoeRedskin
10-20-2014, 05:16 PM
As usual, excellent analysis by Keim:

Assessing Brian Orakpo's Washington Redskins career - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/12120/assessing-brian-orakpos-redskins-career)

Rushing the passer is about more than sacks, and Orakpo influences the pass rush. But when you're being paid $11.45 million for one season and when you want to be paid even more, then you have to do more than set up others. You have to make game-changing plays. . . .

This is a playmakers' league, and Orakpo didn't make enough plays. He played the run well and didn't have any coverage mishaps, though he dropped an easy interception versus Arizona. . . .

In his first five seasons, Orakpo intercepted one pass and forced six fumbles (while recording 39.5 sacks). Some linebackers being paid the kind of money Orakpo seeks have forced the same number of turnovers in one season. . . .

He was a good player. The Redskins needed him to be great.

NC_Skins
10-20-2014, 05:24 PM
Maybe 6 or 7 per... although if Murphy shows he's capable just let him walk

I'm with you on Murphy. He's not shown it yet, and I have my doubts he ever will. I think he lacks the athletic ability to get the job done on the right side. He's better coming up the middle than on the sides.

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