How often does firing an NFL coach make things better?

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MTK
10-20-2014, 03:20 PM
You aren't looking at the stats that count. Never understood why people give a shit about defensive ranking when it comes to yards. (which we rank 7th btw)

What does count on defensive stats is ppg allowed, which we are 24th with 26.1.


I do agree with you that our offense isn't helping a single bit. Not when you have a QB that turned the ball over 10+ times the past few games.

If we were 30th in yards you can bet people would give a shit about that stat all day.

FRPLG
10-20-2014, 03:31 PM
My basis is the same as your basis, reading articles and talking to insiders.

Your basis is imaginary then.

Chico23231
10-20-2014, 03:40 PM
You aren't looking at the stats that count. Never understood why people give a shit about defensive ranking when it comes to yards. (which we rank 7th btw)

What does count on defensive stats is ppg allowed, which we are 24th with 26.1.


I do agree with you that our offense isn't helping a single bit. Not when you have a QB that turned the ball over 10+ times the past few games.

You make a good point, but I think you got to look at starting field position and the fact Cousins lead the league in INT thrown...you got to mix in the fact special teams and a turnover prone offense has had in the points allowed stat. Points allowed is more of a team stat than the specific yards allowed which tends to be move defense only. But still points allowed needs to be taken into consideration when looking at the big picture with Defense...A stat like avg yards per pass attempt and average rush yards against is another....I think overall we are average, but we handle the running game much better than passing game which I attribute to not enough pressure and very poor coverage schemes.


Anther thing with defense, are we forcing enough turnovers? This year I think its been below average, but D Hall out, I thought it would be.

Buffalo Bob
10-20-2014, 04:22 PM
Look at the 49ers they didn't have a winning season for 10 straight years with Nolan, Erickson and Singletary. Harbaugh gets hired when Singletary is fired going 6-10 in 2011. The very next year Harbaugh goes 13-3 with basically the same personnel that Singletary had.

Giantone
10-20-2014, 05:32 PM
Look at the 49ers they didn't have a winning season for 10 straight years with Nolan, Erickson and Singletary. Harbaugh gets hired when Singletary is fired going 6-10 in 2011. The very next year Harbaugh goes 13-3 with basically the same personnel that Singletary had.


So, Singletary should get credit for that team then not Harbaugh ?

JoeRedskin
10-20-2014, 05:45 PM
Our D is not as bad as some make it out to be nor as good as its yardage stats say it is. It has, at various times, forced important 3 & outs only to have the offense return the favor. It has held opposing offenses w/out a TD after they were given a short field by our offense and/or ST. At the same time, they haven't flipped the field with TO's and have given up too many "explosive plays" leading to points.

Bottom line, other than the Giants game, and the 1st half v. Seattle, they have showed up to play but have been consistently put in bad situations by the O and ST.

Personally, if they got a few more TO's, I would say that the D is good enough (w/ or w/o Rak).

TheGuyFromOverThere
10-20-2014, 06:17 PM
Canīt give up that many yards in case the opponent getīs the ball on your 40 all the time.

MTK
10-20-2014, 06:21 PM
Look at the 49ers they didn't have a winning season for 10 straight years with Nolan, Erickson and Singletary. Harbaugh gets hired when Singletary is fired going 6-10 in 2011. The very next year Harbaugh goes 13-3 with basically the same personnel that Singletary had.

Think we're talking about teams turning it around during the same season in which the HC is fired.

Rotten1980
10-20-2014, 09:45 PM
Look at the 49ers they didn't have a winning season for 10 straight years with Nolan, Erickson and Singletary. Harbaugh gets hired when Singletary is fired going 6-10 in 2011. The very next year Harbaugh goes 13-3 with basically the same personnel that Singletary had.

Also Reid going into KC. There's probably more examples too.

CrustyRedskin
10-20-2014, 09:55 PM
Im more excited that Fraida Feltcher is pregnant than this shit show of a season.

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