How often does firing an NFL coach make things better?

If you're bad enough to get your coach fired during the season, chances are it's not going to help. If anything it just fans the flames of the disaster at hand.

I have a friend who was head of an incredibly large government agency. He is famous for firing people at the highest levels for not living up to the needs of the job. It was amazingly effective at getting the people below the 'firee' motivated. I remember him once telling someone "the hardest thing I have to do is fire someone for merely being very good". I think Gruden needs to fire someone, not be fired. Haslett is the obvious choice, in my opinion, since he had no control over his being there in the first place.

All of this talk about firing coaches is making me Horny for Zorny.

The best head coaching hirings are always coaches who were coordinators first or head coaches who were good but had never won a SB......

Talking about firing Gruden at this point is absurd, really.

It's his first year. He lost his starting QB. The backup turned out to be a turnover machine. The team has been decimated by injuries, and had many holes to begin with.

I'm on board with letting Haslett go though. I never understood why we kept him anyway.

Considering how the offense has offered little to no help all season for the D, I think they've gotten the job done for the most part. I think we were 10th overall coming into today.

Shannahan is a terrible talent scout. Shannahan is awful. That being said I think Gruden will do well. Gibbs lost his first 5 games. Shannahan's talent evaluation skills are like the juice at the bottom of the garbage can.

This may seem like a stupid question but watching TV this morning they were talking about Rex Ryan and how he is most likely going to get fired even though he is well respected and for the last two games the Jets have been playing their hearts out...

How much through NFL history has it been proven that firing a coach, the team was better off? In my life I've seen it make no difference in places like Oakland, St. Louis, Jacksonville, and our own Redskins are probably one of the best examples.

I realize that the Head Coach is ultimately responsible for everything that happens with the football team, and when the teams starts sucking, and on a losing streak - he ultimately pays the price. But do you think that is fair? For the sake of argument lets look at the Redskins:

Coach after coach and we basically are no better. This year we already have a lost season. But is it really Jay Gruden's fault that we have problems at QB, Defense, Special teams? I mean he isn't the one making plays, or throwing the interceptions, or letting the other team run the kickoff back..

I guess i'm just looking for examples where firing the coach was absolutely the right move for the franchise and it resulted in wins, playoffs, etc....


Cousins is just a big ole softie. Blame him.

All of this talk about firing coaches is making me Horny for Zorny.

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Talking about firing Gruden at this point is absurd, really.

It's his first year. He lost his starting QB. The backup turned out to be a turnover machine. The team has been decimated by injuries, and had many holes to begin with.

I'm on board with letting Haslett go though. I never understood why we kept him anyway.

I was surprised to learn that we were 10th in the league in total defense. Still at this rate I long for the days of Greg Blache's ultra bland defense. A scheme that was bland that Lovie Smith's Tampa 2 looked like Rex Ryan's scheme by comparison.

Considering how the offense has offered little to no help all season for the D, I think they've gotten the job done for the most part. I think we were 10th overall coming into today.


You aren't looking at the stats that count. Never understood why people give a shit about defensive ranking when it comes to yards. (which we rank 7th btw)

What does count on defensive stats is ppg allowed, which we are 24th with 26.1.


I do agree with you that our offense isn't helping a single bit. Not when you have a QB that turned the ball over 10+ times the past few games.