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skinsfan69 10-08-2014, 09:21 AM When the team plays better RG3 wont have to sacrifice his body. The Redskins always start off dead until RG3 starts his athleticism.
Actually on the play when he got hurt, all he had to do was throw the ball early when Jackson broke open. If he had done that then there was no reason be a hero.
BaltimoreSkins 10-08-2014, 09:26 AM I think the argument about the Seattle team being well rounded and highly competitive as a reason for Wilson being elite is valid. Wilson's development was aided not hindered and thus helping him develop the confidence and leadership skills that have vaulted him into his position. If he was here he wouldn't have had the success he has had in Seattle but I also have no doubt that if we had the Wilson of last year and this year we are a middle of the road team instead of on pace for the same 3-13 record as last year.
Chico23231 10-08-2014, 09:52 AM I think the argument about the Seattle team being well rounded and highly competitive as a reason for Wilson being elite is valid. Wilson's development was aided not hindered and thus helping him develop the confidence and leadership skills that have vaulted him into his position. If he was here he wouldn't have had the success he has had in Seattle but I also have no doubt that if we had the Wilson of last year and this year we are a middle of the road team instead of on pace for the same 3-13 record as last year.
Yeah dont know about that, if anything the Seattle offense is the one that benefited from Wilson's confidence and leadership. Go back to Wilson college career, his leadership and confidence been there-it was defining factor of why he went as high as he did in the draft.
SmootSmack 10-08-2014, 10:42 AM With Russell Wilson, a star is born, though he won't stay young forever. If Griffin could stay healthy, he could run this town. People may hate, but what both RG3 and RW have in common is that they are so ambitious. I mean, you probably don't need the reminder, but back in 2012 we were saying a star is born. But now we're off that and onto the next one
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Chico23231 10-08-2014, 10:52 AM Nas > Jay Z
HailGreen28 10-08-2014, 11:01 AM Not sure anybody is arguing against that. There biggest issues they face are with the salary cap in the next couple of years. They have to pay Russell and Okung big time money so it'll be interesting to see. If they draft well, they'll continue the dominance, if not, they'll taper off.
Seattle Seahawks Salary Caps by Year (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/yearly/)Thanks for the great link, NCSkins, like looking at our team. Washington Redskins Player Contracts, Salaries, & Transactions (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/)
Ruhskins 10-08-2014, 11:04 AM Yeah dont know about that, if anything the Seattle offense is the one that benefited from Wilson's confidence and leadership. Go back to Wilson college career, his leadership and confidence been there-it was defining factor of why he went as high as he did in the draft.
Seattle's offense has benefited from Wilson's good decision making and his ability to take care of the ball. However, up until last year I would say, he wasn't asked to do a lot, which helped in these aspects. This year, I see Wilson doing more, especially in games when Lynch has been taken out of the equation. Still, it helps him tremendously to have that defense that gives Seattle the luxury of rarely playing from behind.
Wilson is a very good QB and there have been examples in the past of young QBs who have not taken advantages of having an elite defense and good running game. The Jets were successful with Sanchez in his first year or so, because that Jets didn't ask him to do much. But when it came for him to do something, he wasn't able to. As we can clearly see, this is not the case with Wilson. He still has the advantage of an elite defense and running game, but he's showing that when needed, he can take matters into his own hands with his running and passing.
SouperMeister 10-08-2014, 04:29 PM Actually on the play when he got hurt, all he had to do was throw the ball early when Jackson broke open. If he had done that then there was no reason be a hero.This is the big difference between the relative development of Cousins and Griffin. Cousins anticipates a receiver breaking open, and throws to a spot. Griffin often holds the ball too long, even when a receiver is running free. Had he thrown the ball when Jackson first broke free, Griffin is probably still in the lineup today. He must improve his recognition and anticipation if he is to ever be an effective pocket passer. There's a reason that great pocket passers with limited mobility like Manning rarely get sacked - the ball is out of his hand before the defense has a chance to reach him. Wilson is becoming the best of both worlds - excellent recognition of what the defense is doing, with the wheels to extend plays when necessary, or to run for big yardage when the defensive seas part. This is the type of playmaker that I still hold hope for Griffin becoming.
calia 10-08-2014, 04:35 PM ^ excellent post -- agreed
skinsguy 10-09-2014, 02:00 PM This is the big difference between the relative development of Cousins and Griffin. Cousins anticipates a receiver breaking open, and throws to a spot. Griffin often holds the ball too long, even when a receiver is running free. Had he thrown the ball when Jackson first broke free, Griffin is probably still in the lineup today. He must improve his recognition and anticipation if he is to ever be an effective pocket passer. There's a reason that great pocket passers with limited mobility like Manning rarely get sacked - the ball is out of his hand before the defense has a chance to reach him. Wilson is becoming the best of both worlds - excellent recognition of what the defense is doing, with the wheels to extend plays when necessary, or to run for big yardage when the defensive seas part. This is the type of playmaker that I still hold hope for Griffin becoming.
Cousins is better at anticipating the receivers getting open. I definitely agree with that. I think he's also shown the ability to anticipate the coverages and take the shots down field when it looks like there can be some success. But I still believe that Griffin gives you a better chance at success overall, IF he can stay healthy. Honestly, we haven't seen enough of RGIII this year to really know if he was about to take that next step or not. One and one quarter games is just not enough time. After four games, we see that Cousins can play well but can also play horribly, but when it comes down to it, wins is what matters. And Cousins just has not given us the wins. RGIII has proven to get us wins when he's perfectly healthy, so I'm not ready to turn my back on RGIII unless Cousins never loses a game from this weekend on.
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