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SFREDSKIN
09-26-2014, 09:19 AM
add Orakpo, he is crazy if he thinks he is an elite OLB

I give him pass since he was playing on basically one hand

punch it in
09-26-2014, 09:24 AM
I give him pass since he was playing on basically one hand


What about all the other games he doesnt show up for over the years. Being injury prone on top of being not so good doesnt earn you a pass and it certainly doesnt earn you a big contract b

Ruhskins
09-26-2014, 09:27 AM
I think the Eagles game took a ton out of us. We looked slow off the ball on both lines of scrimmage to me. And Cousins was staring down receivers.

We're also too thin at the moment due to injuries. I still think we have good games ahead of us but it will take more than a good game to beat our next opponent: Seattle.

The sky isn't falling but yeah, we're just not there yet.

I don't want to use injuries as an excuse, but as a below average team we cannot afford all the injuries we have. I think this was a perfect storm of injuries, our inability to play well in prime time, and just having a bad game coming all together at the worst possible moment.

I hate what I saw out there, but what do we expect when we are all so banged up. Breeland looked good as the third corner, but not as the starter. Hatcher is not 100%, I think Jenkins was beat up. Our already terrible o-line was already down one starter and may be down another. And we have a competent backup, but he's still the backup.

diehardskin2982
09-26-2014, 09:48 AM
Cousins need to learn how to pump fake.

This has to be one of the hardest years to be a Redskins fan. We get killed everywhere for the name all year and recently on South Park. Then the team rewards us for loyalty with a shitty product on the field. smh.
The Skins must have some great Cool-aid at Redskins park because they always seem to think they are better than they are and fool us all the time. Haz should be fired. In the after game interview Manning said that we made NO ADJUSTMENTS and the Giants had the defense figured out from the start. How many times do they need to hear the same effing quotes before they figure it out!

diehardskin2982
09-26-2014, 09:52 AM
Plus Rak being mic'ed up was pathetic. He sounded like a loser.

RFKRat
09-26-2014, 09:53 AM
It's pretty simple. This team/franchise fails because it's in their nature to fail. It's in the DNA, from the front office on down. There are no winners here, none. None who give enough of a crap to care. None who will do the work and make the sacrificies to get things done. It's been this way for 20+ years so why anyone thinks it's every going to change is beyond me.

Players continue to make the same stupid mistakes. The front office makes stupid mistakes and stubbornly refuses to build any depth whatsoever. And fans continue to hope. It's remarkable, reading people's posts last night and today, listening to fans and the sycophants on local radio, how things change radically.

Two weeks ago, after the team's first win after nine straight losses going back to last year, you'd think this team was 5-0 and rocking and rolling the way people talked. They beat the horrificlly bad Jaguars, and suddenly the offense is unstoppable, the defense is 85-Bearish and the coaches are geniuses, unlike the evil Shanahans who drove this franchise into the ground, as if it wasn't already six feet under when they got here. Cousins was the next coming of the franchise QB, people keep conveniently blocking out his mediocre to bad performances prior to this season...I saw everything from people predicting 9-7/10-6/11-5 records and playoffs...uh huh.

Then reality set in when the team played you know, a professional NFL team last week. Albeit one with a poor secondary. So Cousins continued to look like a world beater until Philly started putting pressure on him. Oops. That ended the comparisons to Joe Montana, compounded by the disgraceful performance last night...

Then another prime time embarrassment, in a "home" game where large chunks of the crowd were again in the oppositions colors. Cousins looked worse than Grossman on HIS worst day. The defense was comically bad. The coaches were again outclassed and clueless.

None of this will end anytime soon. With Seattle and Arizona next, this team will be 1-5 and probably will end with at least 10-12 losses again for yet another subpar campaign. The franchise QB that they stupidly traded away the world for, is so fragile he's at the point where he could get out of his car for practice and something will tear or snap. Cousins is what he is, a 4th round pick with very limited potential. The special teams and defense are laughably bad.

The Seattle game on MNF will at least add to the recent string of prime time disasters/embarrassment. This whole team needs to be blown up and sunk in the Bay and then rebuilt like an expansion team, but unfortunately that won't happen.

fanarchist
09-26-2014, 09:56 AM
Google "great qbs who have thrown 4 ints" i just did it made me feel better everyone try 2nd link lol

Maybe you should also look up nobody QBs who have thrown for 3 or more TDs for a little balance. Doesn't Matt Flynn hold the Packers record for most TD passes in a game. I'm pretty sure Josh McCowen should still be a backup. What ever happened to John Skelton? I'm guessing the ratio for backups throwing a slew of interceptions in single game has trended much higher than prolific starters too. 5 out of 11 games in his brief career Cousins has thrown 2 or more ints. And 8 out of those 11 games he has turned it over atleast once. Sounds a lot like the Rex Grossman effect to me. In contrast, Robert in his second year, undoubtedly his worst, threw for 2 ints or more (but never more) in 2 out of 13 games, and turned the ball over atleast once 10 out of 13 games. I don't believe that stats tell the whole story by any means, but I do believe if you're going to use stats they should be used diversely.

gulliblefan
09-26-2014, 10:10 AM
Unfortunately I have to agree. Somehow the culture of losing remains strong despite making changes with the coaching staff. Is it a coincidence that this is the case, or perhaps the losing starts at the very tip top. Frustration is at an all time high, and words really can't express how I feel as a lifelong Skins fan and former season ticket holder (moved away from the D.C. area).

I think I am just tired of hoping so much, only to have the team continually underperform. Or perhaps I just expect too much from a team that really doesn't have what it takes. Defensively this is definitely a real possibility. I think our performance last night and the weeks prior (minus the Jacksonville game against the DIII Jaguars) proves that Jim Haslett's ability to put together and lead an elite defensive in the league is gone. We run around the field as if we are chickens with our heads cut off; running hard and in the wrong directions. There is no discipline. Can we please just admit that the defense needs new leadership!

With regards to the offense, well, I have to admit I have been a proponent of Kirk Cousins since I saw him in the preseason his rookie season. I've never fully bought into the RGIII hype, and have been calling for Kirk to get an opportunity ever since his rookie year. With this being said, I think we can forgive the bad performance last night, but what worries me is Kirk's demeanor on the sideline, and his subsequent inability to rally the team when things went from bad to worse. We need leadership, and we are obviously not getting it from the coaches, so someone has to step up, and it really should come from the quarterback.

This team is just like the teams of the past decade and a half, full of potential with a pension for underperforming at all costs. Is it too much to ask for a little consistency and a team that plays together? Where does this lack of discipline and culture of losing stem from? Can it really be the coaching staff, or does it start at the tip of the spear? We all know the owner is the person calling the personnel shots with regards to the coaching staff, and perhaps Jay Gruden is the right guy, but for some reason the cancerous ownership that is Dan Snyder will always prevail, preventing any possibility for a consistent, championship level team.

I wish I could just look the other way and avoid watching, because this would save me a lot of heartache and frustration, but I am a diehard and have been since I was a little kid. You can't help who or what you love, and I just can't help that I am a diehard skins fan, I just wish we had the right leadership at the top, in order to trickle down the organization and lead us in the right direction. Until this day, I will forever be the gulliblefan!

SmootSmack
09-26-2014, 10:12 AM
Maybe you should also look up nobody QBs who have thrown for 3 or more TDs for a little balance. Doesn't Matt Flynn hold the Packers record for most TD passes in a game. I'm pretty sure Josh McCowen should still be a backup. What ever happened to John Skelton? I'm guessing the ratio for backups throwing a slew of interceptions in single game has trended much higher than prolific starters too. 5 out of 11 games in his brief career Cousins has thrown 2 or more ints. And 8 out of those 11 games he has turned it over atleast once. Sounds a lot like the Rex Grossman effect to me. In contrast, Robert in his second year, undoubtedly his worst, threw for 2 ints or more (but never more) in 2 out of 13 games, and turned the ball over atleast once 10 out of 13 games. I don't believe that stats tell the whole story by any means, but I do believe if you're going to use stats they should be used diversely.

Whoa fanarchist! Blast from the past! Been a minute

SFREDSKIN
09-26-2014, 10:14 AM
NFL Giants 45, Redskins 14: Ten observations - ESPN (http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=11356&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2Fml3 qQX7Rs6%22%7D)

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