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Giantone 09-21-2014, 09:12 AM Your ability to create impressive strawman arguments shine again.
First you make the argument solely about Goodell- it is not. As Smoot laid out there are several depths to the wrong decisions and actions that deserve objective criticism and sanctions.
2nd you ask the second most useless question on the internet "What would you do" . The point is Goodell, and many others throughout various levels of the NFL were in positions to act and failed.
Finally you raise up as the supposed only option one of boycotting the NFL. Surely sponsors pulling promotions affects NFL behavior and one reason the sponsors did that was because of possible consumer backlash. But even more importantly, this isn't something should require fan action and saying we can't boycott thus nothing more should be done is a simple fallacious argument.
Total number on my ignore list as of now: a giant 1
You seem to spin it a differently than I put it out there but I'm sorry I don't see it your way .
SirLK26 09-21-2014, 10:19 AM There's blame to go around. The NFL can't help that Ray Rice hit his wife or that AP beats children now that it's already happened, but they can keep those particular guys from playing again and can use long suspensions(not 2 effing games) or indefinite bans to deter other players from trying the same shananigans. And then, of course, there's also this thing of the NFL and the Ravens trying to cover the Rice incident up... So yeah, blame to go around...
tshile 09-21-2014, 10:29 AM Like Matty said, when did the NFL become the "whipping boy" for all of society's problems. BTW, Hope Solo is allowed to play for the women's national team and she is facing domestic violence charges, but people don't really care. Welcome to the double standard of America. The sad part is that in about 6-8 weeks no one will give a damn because we will be on the cusp of the Aaron Hernandez trial.
It's how the righteous work. They pick and choose who they mob against. Criticize their tactics, point out their hypocrisy, or highlight any incorrect facts or ignorance and they add you to their list.
These people just want to think they're a part of something 'good' without actually, you know, being a part of something. So they click like, they retweet, they get all riled up. But they don't actually do anything.
Sometimes good comes from it. Maybe this time it will. But their track record is pretty poor.
The media eats up and uses it to direct ratings and clicks their way. So it spirals out of control.
We'll see. The NFL cover up story exposed by ESPN is quite damning... I think there's probably a few people that should lose their jobs based on that report. So on one hand I kind of applaud the righteous I so loathe, on the other I can't help but laugh that they've ignored so many domestic violence issues in the past and even in this case it took an actual video to get outraged (the level of outrage was nothing compared to this when the story broke.) In some twisted irony most of the righteous are guilty of the exact same thing they accuse Goodell and the Ravens of - Not giving enough of a shit and needing a video of the actual punch to understand how awful domestic violence is.
Goodell and the Ravens have already admitted their mistake in that regard. The Righteous never will...
Defensewins 09-21-2014, 11:08 AM What doomed President Nixon was not the initial crimes he had others commit for him, it was when he ordered the FBI and CIA to stop investigating. The Coverup, the obstruction of justice is what forced his resignation.
When the most powerful man in the most powerful sport does not personally insist to see elevator footage that he knows exists, he closes his eyes, that is the issue.
When blaming the NFL FO in what they did wrong, it is not about focusing on the crime Rice committed or domestic violence, it is about the joke of investigation that covered their eyes to protect the brand. Thus unintentionally condoning the crime and further acts of domestic.
rbanerjee23 09-21-2014, 11:20 AM It's how the righteous work. They pick and choose who they mob against. Criticize their tactics, point out their hypocrisy, or highlight any incorrect facts or ignorance and they add you to their list.
These people just want to think they're a part of something 'good' without actually, you know, being a part of something. So they click like, they retweet, they get all riled up. But they don't actually do anything.
Sometimes good comes from it. Maybe this time it will. But their track record is pretty poor.
The media eats up and uses it to direct ratings and clicks their way. So it spirals out of control.
We'll see. The NFL cover up story exposed by ESPN is quite damning... I think there's probably a few people that should lose their jobs based on that report. So on one hand I kind of applaud the righteous I so loathe, on the other I can't help but laugh that they've ignored so many domestic violence issues in the past and even in this case it took an actual video to get outraged (the level of outrage was nothing compared to this when the story broke.) In some twisted irony most of the righteous are guilty of the exact same thing they accuse Goodell and the Ravens of - Not giving enough of a shit and needing a video of the actual punch to understand how awful domestic violence is.
Goodell and the Ravens have already admitted their mistake in that regard. The Righteous never will...
Out of curiosity, what have you done to help abused women?
Ruhskins 09-21-2014, 12:39 PM Rob Bironas, former Tennessee Titans kicker, dies - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11563129/rob-bironas-former-tennessee-titans-kicker-dies)
Former Titans kicker Bironas killed in a car accident.
Dear lord.....
Thank you for providing us in your eminent wisdom and kindness your children, Adrian, Ray, Greg etc.......
Now....NOBODY gives a sh.. What the Redskins are named....amen
calia 09-21-2014, 12:53 PM Rob Bironas, former Tennessee Titans kicker, dies - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11563129/rob-bironas-former-tennessee-titans-kicker-dies)
Former Titans kicker Bironas killed in a car accident.
Sad about Bironas. Was a solid kicker and 36 is way too young to go.
CRedskinsRule 09-21-2014, 01:01 PM @ChrisBurke_SI: Ray Lewis actually said this about the Ray Rice situation: "There are some things you can cover up. There are some things you can't.""
SFREDSKIN 09-21-2014, 01:04 PM Rob Bironas, former Tennessee Titans kicker, dies - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11563129/rob-bironas-former-tennessee-titans-kicker-dies)
Former Titans kicker Bironas killed in a car accident.
Terry Bradshaws son in law RIP
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