Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

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skinsguy
09-29-2014, 05:51 PM
Id like to know why we dont have the ability to draft olinemen and then coach them up into starters. We spent alot of draft picks on back ups...that shit needs to change. Bruce, talent evaluators in the fo and the coaches need to answer for those fuck ups.

i hope to god we play both Long and Moses durning this losing season to see what they have. Experience is key, especially along the oline. Legrimace needs to play as well.

That is where we saw the genius of Bobby Beathard back in the day. He was able to find great talent through free agency and the draft. He helped Buges build that great offensive line that the 'skins enjoyed having throughout the 80's. And even later on, the 'skins were able to draft a Jim Lachey to compliment guys like Jacoby, Grimm, and Bostic. But the biggest thing was not only were these guys solid, but they had staying power. That offensive line rarely changed except for the gradual change from '81 to '91. There were no wholesale changed to that offensive line. Consistency, continuity, and solid talent is what drove Washington throughout the 80's, and it all started up front.

I think the issues are, however, that you don't see a plethora of great offensive linemen in the draft. You might be able to pick up a guy here or there, but it takes awhile to really get a solid offensive line built. And you have to take some skilled players as well. At least the Redskins, for the moment, are pretty good at the skilled positions. They can focus completely on the offensive line and the secondary.

skinsguy
09-29-2014, 05:54 PM
And I know I'm speaking in terms of the offseason already and we're only four games into the season, but being 1-3 kind of makes you think you're in trouble. Even if the skins were 4-0 at this point, I'd probably still consider building that offensive line up. I want RGIII to have so much time in the pocket that he literally gets bored holding onto the ball (well of course I'd want him to throw it to Jackson!)

SCRedskinsFan
09-29-2014, 11:23 PM
That is where we saw the genius of Bobby Beathard back in the day. He was able to find great talent through free agency and the draft. He helped Buges build that great offensive line that the 'skins enjoyed having throughout the 80's. And even later on, the 'skins were able to draft a Jim Lachey to compliment guys like Jacoby, Grimm, and Bostic. But the biggest thing was not only were these guys solid, but they had staying power. That offensive line rarely changed except for the gradual change from '81 to '91. There were no wholesale changed to that offensive line. Consistency, continuity, and solid talent is what drove Washington throughout the 80's, and it all started up front.

I think the issues are, however, that you don't see a plethora of great offensive linemen in the draft. You might be able to pick up a guy here or there, but it takes awhile to really get a solid offensive line built. And you have to take some skilled players as well. At least the Redskins, for the moment, are pretty good at the skilled positions. They can focus completely on the offensive line and the secondary.

Jim Lachey was not a Redskins pick. The Chargers drafted him, sent him to the Raiders, and Bobby Beathard traded QB Jay Schroeder to get him. At the time I thought that was a lousy deal, Schroeder was a good QB. Goes to show 2 things: I didn't know much about judging football talent then, and I haven't learned much since...

Hog1
09-29-2014, 11:33 PM
It's good to meet an honest man.......

mitch e
09-30-2014, 01:25 PM
It's good to meet an honest man.......

I agree 100%, but if we can see it why cant the Skins?

skinsfan69
09-30-2014, 01:41 PM
Jim Lachey was not a Redskins pick. The Chargers drafted him, sent him to the Raiders, and Bobby Beathard traded QB Jay Schroeder to get him. At the time I thought that was a lousy deal, Schroeder was a good QB. Goes to show 2 things: I didn't know much about judging football talent then, and I haven't learned much since...

He was not a good QB. Yeah he could throw it 80 yards, but he had 0 leadership skills and lacked accuracy. He flamed the rest of his career. But I think that he still holds the single season yardage record from 1986. That's sad. lol. But that was a great trade by BB.

SmootSmack
09-30-2014, 01:56 PM
He was not a good QB. Yeah he could throw it 80 yards, but he had 0 leadership skills and lacked accuracy. He flamed the rest of his career. But I think that he still holds the single season yardage record from 1986. That's sad. lol. But that was a great trade by BB.

And Mike Shanahan was on the other end of that deal (well him and Al Davis)

The ironic thing is that just a year earlier the Raiders and Redskins had a deal done to send Doug Williams to the Raiders until Joe Gibbs nixed the deal.

And what some veterans on the team have told me, Schroeder may have been the most hated man in the locker room.

skinsfan69
09-30-2014, 05:47 PM
And Mike Shanahan was on the other end of that deal (well him and Al Davis)

The ironic thing is that just a year earlier the Raiders and Redskins had a deal done to send Doug Williams to the Raiders until Joe Gibbs nixed the deal.

And what some veterans on the team have told me, Schroeder may have been the most hated man in the locker room.

Not surprising. I heard that his attitude was so bad during the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, that Gibbs was thinking about deactivating him and bringing up Rypien.

SmootSmack
09-30-2014, 06:15 PM
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Not surprising. I heard that his attitude was so bad during the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, that Gibbs was thinking about deactivating him and bringing up Rypien.

I think he had the misfortune of bad timing following SB champ Joe Theismann and then sharing a spot with beloved Doug Williams

Hog1
09-30-2014, 09:53 PM
Jay it seemed at the time had a hard time fitting in......like someone we know at the helm of the bears. He reminds me of Cutler....

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