The Cut List 2014

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Lotus
08-31-2014, 06:38 PM
It's not necessarily a matter of choosing between two individuals each of whom has his weaknesses. The job description is to have both FG accuracy and kickoffs that aren't returnable. The Skins should not just surrender any advantage to our opponents. They need to keep looking for a PK who can do both.

Forbath should be viewed as our interim PK, as far as I'm concerned. I'm fine with his FG accuracy but that's only part of the job. His KO's are substandard. We can and should do better.

Kickers kick forever, so Mr. Right Kicker for Us might be 40 years old and working as a bartender right now. I don't care where they find him. They just need to find him.

I agree, and the same argument goes for punting. We lack franchise players in the kicking game all around.

REDSKINS4ever
09-01-2014, 12:47 AM
Problem with Hocker is he wasn't all that accurate in college. To win the job he needed to have a perfect summer and he didn't. Tie goes to the vet.

But Hocker has potential.....have you seen videos of him kicking 60 yard FGs? His leg is undoubtedly stronger than Forbath's, who was far short of a perfect training camp and preseason himself.

TheGuyFromOverThere
09-01-2014, 03:12 AM
Kickers kick forever, so Mr. Right Kicker for Us might be 40 years old and working as a bartender right now. I don't care where they find him. They just need to find him.

Probably any random pub in Ireland.

MTK
09-01-2014, 09:51 AM
But Hocker has potential.....have you seen videos of him kicking 60 yard FGs? His leg is undoubtedly stronger than Forbath's, who was far short of a perfect training camp and preseason himself.

Like I said, tie goes to the vet.

Hocker didn't do anything to stake his claim as the clear winner of the competition.

And it's not like Forbath is done improving his game either.

MTK
09-01-2014, 09:55 AM
I could see Forbath turning into another Suisham or Gano situation. Two guys we gave up on a tad too early and they've gone on to be solid pros elsewhere.

In 2012 everyone loved Forbath, he's made nearly 88% of his kicks here, and two years later everyone is ready to move on? The fickleness of fans is amazing sometimes.

DynamiteRave
09-01-2014, 10:24 AM
I'm cool with Forbath. I can kinda forgive the noodle leg on kickoffs so long as the accuracy on FGs stays high. Always liked him.

Come on guys, we were constantly giving up on kickers over the years and finally when we get one that's consistent albeit raw on KOs you wanna can him for the next flash in the pan? Oy...

Lotus
09-01-2014, 10:51 AM
I'd rather have Forbath's accuracy than Hocker's distance.
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KI Skins Fan
09-01-2014, 11:37 AM
I'm cool with Forbath. I can kinda forgive the noodle leg on kickoffs so long as the accuracy on FGs stays high. Always liked him.

Come on guys, we were constantly giving up on kickers over the years and finally when we get one that's consistent albeit raw on KOs you wanna can him for the next flash in the pan? Oy...

Just wait until some guy takes a short Forbath kickoff with poor hang time back 95 yards for a TD. That will test your patience.

OK, I get it. He's accurate. He needs to continue to work on his KO's but he is improving in that area. He could be our guy. However, I would like it if the Skins would use the final PS spot on Hocker. Develop him, as well, and keep the pressure on Forbath.

Afterthought: I am such a mean bastard! I should be ashamed of myself. Right, Mrs. Forbath?

CRedskinsRule
09-01-2014, 11:45 AM
Just wait until some guy takes a short Forbath kickoff with poor hang time back 95 yards for a TD. That will test your patience.

OK, I get it. He's accurate. He needs to continue to work on his KO's but he is improving in that area. He could be our guy. However, I would like it if the Skins would use the final PS spot on Hocker. Develop him, as well, and keep the pressure on Forbath.

Afterthought: I am such a mean bastard! I should be ashamed of myself. Right, Mrs. Forbath?
If we have continual ST breakdowns on returns it is probably more than just the kicker's fault. On paper at least they really upgraded the quality of player on the ST lines and that may have increased their comfort level with a shorter kickoff. Speaking of which, I do think ST upgrades is something national media has really missed about what Gruden is doing with this team. And that should be a big boost to both the offense and defense.

Lotus
09-01-2014, 11:49 AM
Just wait until some guy takes a short Forbath kickoff with poor hang time back 95 yards for a TD. That will test your patience.

OK, I get it. He's accurate. He needs to continue to work on his KO's but he is improving in that area. He could be our guy. However, I would like it if the Skins would use the final PS spot on Hocker. Develop him, as well, and keep the pressure on Forbath.

Afterthought: I am such a mean bastard! I should be ashamed of myself. Right, Mrs. Forbath?

Therein lies the rub.

However, I don't know about Hocker on the PS. Hocker likely will be sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring, meaning we wouldn't need to PS him.

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