Arrington vs. Taylor: Who's the bigger "problem"?

I just dont understand but it seem to me the last thing arrington , smoot , taylor , or pierce should be worrying about is a contract. it just dont seem right when brunnell got this huge deal, it just dont seem right.

i think it's taylor!he is quickly proving us to be right by being the pouting infant he has become!i love arrington,but i'm sick of all his temper tantrums.he needs to calm his young
millionaire ass down,and just play football.not whine,pout,or cry.JUST PLAY FOOTBALL!!!!!

I just dont understand but it seem to me the last thing arrington , smoot , taylor , or pierce should be worrying about is a contract. it just dont seem right when brunnell got this huge deal, it just dont seem right.

that does'nt have anything to do with the question does it?
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i just think the problems with arrington and taylopr come from the slow prgress on their contract grievances. thats all. if thats not related to who is the bigger problem then so be it.

That's not how sports works. You can't compare the two because they are in no way the same. In your example you could simply quit and be done with it. Of course then you'd need another job so maybe you wouldn't quit in the first place. Come to think of it I think it is awful petty to compare your salary with someone else's. What matters is whether you are being fairly compensated relative to the market...not just your own office. In sports there is not a free and open market like in the real marketplace. When you sign a professional sports contract you are signing for what you are worth exactly at the time you signed it. When Brunell signed his contract the Skins thought he was worth it(who the hell knows why but that it another matter). I doubt there are many players who look at Brunell's contract and say to themselves that the Skins must value him more since he is being paid more. They all understand the fact that guys sign big contracts and sometimes it doesn't work out. What they are doing is comparing themsleves to the market and evaluating whether they are being paid fair in the regard. And I gurantee you these players are not wanting Brunell to take a pay cut since that sets a precendent that they themselves could be on the wrong side of down the road. They want everyone getting money. The more everyone gets paid the more they end up getting paid. High salaries beget high salaries...not the other way around.


Great post! I wish more people understood it the way you do

i voted tayler as being the bigger problem. lavar is just venting some frustration because of his rehab not going the way it should. his 6.5 mill. dispute is being handled by the nflpa and is not talked about very much by lavar. ( lavar should have read through the contract, basically his own fault. )
taylor on the other hand needs to grow up. he played musical agents then signed a contract. he was busted for driving drunk, yea i know, he was cleared of charges but i think he prolly was a bit tipsy and should not have been driving. he allegedly spit on a player. he's not at work-outs, thats not a good decision. he wants to renegotiate his contract after only one season.

ultimately though , i love both players. i just wish they could both do a better job at being more responsible and not blaming the skins for their own mistakes. just shut up and play football.

Safety is one of the lowest paid positions in the league. However, we can't forget he was the 5th overall pick. That's a high pick and demands money. Especially shocked we signed him for so low considering it was after Winslow got his massive deal, was it not?

Well rookie salaries take two things into account. One is position, and one is draft position. Both are equally important. And you are right, safety is one of the lowest paid positions. But that's exactly why no team would give a safety at #5 anything close to what a tight end at #6 commands. Agreed, for a top 5 pick his contract seems a little low. But what has he done to deserve more? I don't doubt that after this year, a year in which i expect him to be a pro bowler, he will have earned a higher salary. But what has he done so far? In my opinion he just hasn't made the case yet.

And I'm pretty sure Winslow signed after Taylor's deal was done. Didn't the Browns have a fairly tough time signing him, in part because he has the Postons? I seem to remember Winslow's negotiations dragging on longer than Taylors, but I could be wrong.

Incidentally, in case anyone was interested, the best info I could find on Ed Reed's Contract was that he got a $3.625 million signing bonus in 2002 plus $275,000 in salary. 2003 he got $443,750. And this year he scheduled to make less than $600,000. He is in his final year of his rookie contract, and even after becoming Defensive MVP, he still hasn't demanded a new contract and he's never held out from all the information I was able to find.

Now, Reed was drafted #24 in the 2002 draft, so certainly his contract should be less than Taylor's (inflation and higher draft position), but if ever there was a safety that could have legitimately demanded more $ than between $300k and $600k per year, it is Ed Reed. Again, I like Taylor, but I think we're being a little too easy on a kid who clearly has one heck of an attitude problem.

He can cover, he can intercept, he can run it back, he can blitz. Sean Taylor, especially in the hands of Greg Williams, could be one of the most devastating players in the league simply because he's so versatile.

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing about Arrington.

Incidentally, in case anyone was interested, the best info I could find on Ed Reed's Contract was that he got a $3.625 million signing bonus in 2002 plus $275,000 in salary. 2003 he got $443,750. And this year he scheduled to make less than $600,000. He is in his final year of his rookie contract, and even after becoming Defensive MVP, he still hasn't demanded a new contract and he's never held out from all the information I was able to find.



The biggest comparison you can make in the contracts is the term... thats where Taylor got screwed, not in the per yr numbers. Whats the avg. carreer span for a safety in this league? It cant be more than 8 9 yrs, and he's tied up in a low money contract for seven years. His agent should have told him not to take such a long rookie deal, but he didn't and now he's fired. Now, Taylor fired his agent, but still feels cheated out of the career and lifestyle he's been working toward his whole life. It kinda taints the dream a little bit and without his dumbass agent around, he's going to take it out one someone else. That being the team. I dont agree with it because Im a fan of the team, but if I were a player, I might be a little weary of the Redskins FO myself.

Oh, and the guy who said Taylor didnt accomplish anything, he was an alternate to the pro-bowl as a rookie, and had better stats than Roy Williams across the board, who made the pro bowl. I'd say thats an accomplishment enough to make a statement.