Gameday Thread: Browns vs. Redskins

the nfl.com photo gallery for the game has some good pics you all may enjoy :)
NFL.com Photos - Browns Redskins Football - Ryan Kerrigan, Johnny Manziel (http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap3000000379606/0ap3000000379758)

how did Luavo do? I didn't like that as a "fix" there was no okay now were set moment for me there.


Solid nothing spectacular. Overall an upgrade though with Kory a better fit at center.

how did Luavo do? I didn't like that as a "fix" there was no okay now were set moment for me there.

I thought he played fine.

Not too concerned about the goal stance, thought we got in on 4th. We ran 3 vanilla runs in a row, don't expect the same during the season in the same situation. Plus Cleveland has respectable beef along the front dline unlike the giants, cowgurls and eagles.

After watching the Browns game, I am concerned that RGIII might never "get it" and learn to protect himself on the run. As of today, unless this behavior of his changes, I expect him to be injured again this season while running and failing to get out of bounds or to slide in time to avoid a hit.



I'm sure that Robert understands the need to fix this problem on an intellectual level. But I suspect that what he does now is deeply ingrained in him and it has only become a behavioral problem now that he is in the NFL where he is competing against better athletes than he faced in college. Nevertheless, his behavior needs to change immediately if there is to be any hope of his playing a full season.



The Redskins coaching staff has failed to communicate to Robert the importance of protecting himself. Verbal communication hasn't worked. So now I think the staff needs to address this problem by replacing his current behavior with another learned behavior. To be specific, I think they should create special drills for him to practice exactly when to get out of bounds and when and how to slide. They should make him practice this over and over and correct him whenever he fails to adequately protect himself or slide properly during a drill. This needs to be a high priority and the staff needs to keep doing these drills until his behavior changes.



I'm serious about this. It is a major issue for Robert, this team, and the franchise. The coaching staff must teach him through repetition that the time for him to get out of bounds or slide is sooner than he is currently doing it.


I mentioned something along these lines a few weeks back. After one of the practices with the patriots Gruden mentioned how he would like to see RG get rid of the ball and go out of bounds more often.

When Griffin was asked about Grudens comments he said something along the lines of...it's practice so I want to continue the plays so receivers can work on scramble drills, in live games I'm going to do something different.

He needs to start listening to what these coaches have to say. He hasn't listened to much so far, and it makes me very nervous for the future. RG needs to have it pounded into his head how valuable he is to this team.

I think what needs to be done is have someone on the sideline at all practices with a whistle that blows the play dead the second he starts to run. That's the only way I see him able to break this style of play.

I really hope he learns how to play more effective throughout this year. Really need to see some vast improvement, there's no way he will last in the league very long playing like this.

I wonder if Clev is regretting taking that fool and perhaps thinking they should have drafted Bridgewater. Forget that he's a dick for now, he doesn't look like he can actually play at the NFL level. There were easy routine throws last night that he just couldn't make. That would be my concern more than his shitty tiresome act.

The coaches aren't babysitters! He's a grown ass man and a smart one. He knows what he needs to do and should take it upon himself to get down. Either he does it, or he gets hurt and misses games. That might be the only way he learns. Personally I think he's exactly like Vick. He'll never truly protect himself. It's just not in his nature slide naturally.


The coaches aren't baby sitters, but they are NFL coaches and get paid a lot of money to keep these players in line. If you don't think some of this comes back on the coaching you are wrong. There's blame to go all the way around, not just at RG's feet. The have to teach him how to play this game.

I wonder if Clev is regretting taking that fool and perhaps thinking they should have drafted Bridgewater. Forget that he's a dick for now, he doesn't look like he can actually play at the NFL level. There were easy routine throws last night that he just couldn't make. That would be my concern more than his shitty tiresome act.

if it was basketball, Johnny Cakes would have the bounce pass down

It's on Griffin to adapt his game. I find it hard to believe the coaches aren't in his ear all the time about being smart when scrambling. Griffin needs to make it happen.

the nfl.com photo gallery for the game has some good pics you all may enjoy :)
NFL.com Photos- Browns Redskins Football - Ryan Kerrigan, Johnny Manziel (http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap3000000379606/0ap3000000379758)

In one of Judy Battista's latest NFL.com articles about the Browns, she mentions how Hoyer was sacked by Ryan Kerrigan, "one of the league's best pass rushers." I just thought it was cool he was getting some love like that on the national level. Of course, maybe Miss Judy was just trying to earn points with Kerrigan. :D

Maybe you're still jet lagged, but right now Manziel is not better than Hoyer. Hoyer and Manziel have been splitting reps, and that's going to affect any QB, especially one that hasn't played since October of last year (Hoyer).



If I'm Cleveland, I make Hoyer the starter, let him get reps with the first team for the rest of the season, and let Johnny Crybaby play with the second team (consistently) in the last two games. If they keep this up, they're going to be destroyed by the likes of Pittsburgh and Baltimore, no matter who's under center.


Ehhh. I know the kid is a whiny little punk. BUT im not talking about who id rather hang out with. Yeah Hoyer hasnt played since October, but he has been in the NFL since 2009. Manziel has participated in two pre-season games. So if you are going to use the experience factor lets look at the big picture. Again I agree with you about rotating them in and out of games. Its a recipe for disaster.