Ferguson

It seems they have revealed the name since then but the Chief says that the officer named isn't on the roster. Still kind of scary that 14 year old kids have gotten this good.

Hackers have the names and Social Security numbers of Ferguson police. But should they share them? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/14/hackers-have-the-names-and-social-security-numbers-of-ferguson-police-but-should-they-share-them/)
David, a.k.a. Pharoah, doesn’t hold a political office or opine for CNN. But this week, the 14-year-old hacker mounted what might have been one of the more personally damaging attacks against Ferguson, Mo.’s embattled police department: the name — and the address, and the Social Security number — of St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar.

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Anonymous' "Op Ferguson" Says It Will ID the Officer Who Killed Michael Brown | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/anonymous-ferguson-police-killing-unarmed-michael-brown)

Update: Anonymous reveals alleged Ferguson shooter’s name, Police says group gets it wrong | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2014/08/14/anonymous-reveals-alleged-ferguson-shooters-name/)

Sweet. Not only may we see vigilante justice, but it might be against the wrong person.

Simple enough for the police to release the name of the shooter. It is beyond poor judgment that they didn't immediately. He shot and killed an individual, good shoot or bad, he doesn't have any right to privacy, and the cover up is reprehensible.

You give no credence to the idea that it's for his safety while an investigation is ongoing?

You think it means there's a cover up going on?

I think the key thing I want to know: did this kid wrestle with the police officer or not?

You give no credence to the idea that it's for his safety while an investigation is ongoing?

You think it means there's a cover up going on?

No, I don't accept that as a valid rationale. If I were to shoot someone, even in a heated exchange, my name would not be withheld for safety purposes. In fact it would be published out right. The better tact, imo, would have been to release the name, and at the same time release a statement that he has been suspended (with or without pay) while the investigation is ongoing. To show the community that a police officer can't shoot someone with impunity. Now maybe that would not have calmed the situation, but that is the appropriate way to handle it. Further, if you look at Ferguson, like in the Post article I posted earlier, this is not a community prone to violent resorts, and if they felt the situation was being handled openly, then I believe their response would have been more measured.

My use of the term cover up was probably poor word choice, I don't know that a coverup was going on, I do think police arrogance and refusal to acknowledge the community's anger, justifiable or not, was what was on display. And not releasing the name was a big FU to the community.

Finally, I think the vigilante justice aspect is ridiculous. With proper safeguards, no one was going to gun down Officer Wilson lest the police might over react and bring out militarized vehicles and start tear gassing them, oh wait...

If you shot someone it wouldn't cause mass riots for almost a week due to allegations of racism and corruption among the police force. That's why they wouldn't have any trouble releasing your name.


So they were forced to release his name.

Oh and the fact that Brown was suspected of assault and robbery of a local store.

So much for the innocent college kid walking in the street gunned down by the white racist simply because he's black narrative.

I'm sure all the people that immediately called everyone racist and rioted will apologize.

I think the key thing I want to know: did this kid wrestle with the police officer or not?

According to CNN, they've spoken to eye witnesses that say they did indeed wrestle. They used the word 'tussle'

though the details of said tussle are a conflicting.

the more that comes out from officials the more the cop's story seems to line up with the facts.

the less the early narrative of innocent young black man in the street makes sense...

If you shot someone it wouldn't cause mass riots for almost a week due to allegations of racism and corruption among the police force. That's why they wouldn't have any trouble releasing your name.


So they were forced to release his name.

Oh and the fact that Brown was suspected of assault and robbery of a local store.

So much for the innocent college kid walking in the street gunned down by the white racist simply because he's black narrative.

I'm sure all the people that immediately called everyone racist and rioted will apologize.
So you basically accept the spoon fed police narrative, but disregard pictures of local police tear gassing and arresting journalists, and citizens. You also seem to disregard the fact that once the "good ole boy" local police were removed there was no need for tear gas, and suddenly the same citizens that were being teargassed now were able to go through the evening with only 3 rocks thrown.

two sides to every coin I guess.

Presumed innocence for the guy who was killed goes a lot further for me than a town's cops putting out the story 5 days after the fact in a way that makes them look the best they possibly could given the events of the intervening days.

And releasing his name wouldn't have caused mass riots, it was the fact that they did NOT release his name that caused the riots, AND if they had released the name, and the riots still occurred, there would be much less sympathy for those who rioted than when the police look like they are protecting one of their own.

If you shot someone it wouldn't cause mass riots for almost a week due to allegations of racism and corruption among the police force. That's why they wouldn't have any trouble releasing your name.


So they were forced to release his name.

Oh and the fact that Brown was suspected of assault and robbery of a local store.

So much for the innocent college kid walking in the street gunned down by the white racist simply because he's black narrative.

I'm sure all the people that immediately called everyone racist and rioted will apologize.

So are you good with how everything went down?