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JoeRedskin 07-01-2014, 10:23 AM I was reading the most recent Keim article:
What the Washington Redskins' O must produce to get to the playoffs - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/8627/what-the-redskins-o-must-produce)
Based on his research, it looks like a team needs to average about 22-24 PPG to be a serious playoff contender.
I can see this offense making 21 PPG on average. Not sure it will have the oomph this year to get over the hump. In my opinion, ST and Def contribute to the offense's PPG through TO's and field position. While I think the offense has the weapons to do score >21 PPG, I also think the defense and ST have to provide assistance and I am simply not convinced they can do so. If the offense is consistently put in a position of needing long drives to score, I just don't see it succeeding. Again, not b/c it can't score on long drives but just that doing so consistently is very difficult.
So ... I see an offense that scores 21 PPG. Anyone else think higher or lower? Does 21 PPG get us into the playoffs?
scowan 07-01-2014, 11:24 AM How many possesions do you get on average per game? Is it 8-10? I read that some where. I think the Redskins need to score on at least half of those possesion and TDs over FGs will get you to 28 points. Now that's unrealistic, but the Broncos were doing it consistantly last year. They also scored on way more than half their possesions as well.
A couple of seasons when the Redskins went 6-10, if they could have scored 21 pointsin every game, they would have made the playoffs. "First team to 21 wins", sounds like a basketball game I use to play, but it works in the NFL as well.
Chico23231 07-01-2014, 11:34 AM Its really tough to say how much we can score with a new scheme coming in and to see how are players react in it.
I really hope our special teams can get their act together because that could be the difference.
SirLK26 07-01-2014, 12:25 PM 21 sounds about right.
But it's more fun to think about the potential. If the offense stays reasonably healthy, we could be top 5 in PPG easily. That would likely require at least 27 points on average(the top 5 in PPG last year had at least 27), but with the players we have, how unlikely is almost 4 TDs a game? Somewhat unlikely, I suppose, but we do have some darn talented players on offense. If Griffin is more 2012 than 2013 and Reed stays healthy, it's not out of range. Cincinnati put up 26.9 on average, and look at their offensive talent versus ours. I really don't see 27 PPG happening, at least not this year, but it's fun to think about.
rbanerjee23 07-01-2014, 01:45 PM 21 sounds about right.
But it's more fun to think about the potential. If the offense stays reasonably healthy, we could be top 5 in PPG easily. That would likely require at least 27 points on average(the top 5 in PPG last year had at least 27), but with the players we have, how unlikely is almost 4 TDs a game? Somewhat unlikely, I suppose, but we do have some darn talented players on offense. If Griffin is more 2012 than 2013 and Reed stays healthy, it's not out of range. Cincinnati put up 26.9 on average, and look at their offensive talent versus ours. I really don't see 27 PPG happening, at least not this year, but it's fun to think about.
Yeah, but it takes time to gel as a team, throw in the new coaching staff + offensive system, and I don't think it's reasonable to achieve 4 TDs a game on average in this first season despite the increased talent. I think that 20 PPG is a something that should be achievable (2 TDs and 2 FGs a game) meaning that we do score on half the offensive possessions but balanced with FGs vs TDs
SirLK26 07-01-2014, 02:12 PM Yeah, but it takes time to gel as a team, throw in the new coaching staff + offensive system, and I don't think it's reasonable to achieve 4 TDs a game on average in this first season despite the increased talent. I think that 20 PPG is a something that should be achievable (2 TDs and 2 FGs a game) meaning that we do score on half the offensive possessions but balanced with FGs vs TDs
C'mon, man! I agree that 27 PPG is overly optimistic, but 20? That's less than last year! With an improved RG, healthy Reed, and the addition of Jackson, surely we'll get at least 21. I know, I know, we have a new HC, OC, and playcaller, but the offensive personnel appears to be substantially better than last year. In addition, Gruden improved the Bengals' PPG from 20.1 the year before he was hired to 21.5 his first year. Expecting us to regress seems a bit in the other ditch.
I suppose if those points came all throughout the game instead of mostly in the 2nd half, it would still be an improvement, but I gotta be honest, I'm expecting more PPG than last year.
over the mountain 07-01-2014, 03:01 PM if i had to predict at this moment, (which is impossible w new staff/scheme)
i foresee our run game taking a huge hit in production
which will lead to a less open passing attack
i believe what the shannys brought to the table is being very much under-appreciated
i just hope RG3 can overcome obstacles.
PPG prediction (right now) = 17?
FRPLG 07-01-2014, 03:02 PM Yeah it will come down to possessions. Our defense ahs to be able to get off the field. They don't have to dominate but we need a couple or three 3 and outs a game. We were lucky to get one last year.
skinsguy 07-01-2014, 03:19 PM I see no reason why the offense cannot score, on average, 21 points per ball game. I'd say between 21-24 points will win you more games than you'll lose. The biggest issue will be how many points allowed will the defense allow?
NYCskinfan82 07-01-2014, 04:37 PM We are going to have to score at least 24 to 27 pts a game, how many will we score is the BIG answer.
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