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This is another area I disagree with; just because people are saying the name is offensive now (either legitimately or otherwise), doesn't mean they're calling everyone who's ever uttered it a racist. Costas, et al have all used the name many times over their careers.

It doesn't have to mean they're calling everyone racist, but for many of the people taking the lead publicly on the issue that's what they're doing.

That's what it sounds like (to me at least) when someone says the name is 'obviously offensive', that it's 'obviously disparaging', or 'obviously racist.'

If the argument is that it's so 'obvious', then the implication is that I'm too ignorant/stupid/racist to realize it and/or care.

Which is fine - I don't mind being called names... the people pushing for this have quite a few names that fit them as well.

It just cracks me up when those people turn around and try to say they're not calling us names - they clearly are when they're making their argument, and when called it on it they try to backtrack.

It also makes me laugh when they start getting offended when they're called the names they deserve - such as ignorant, or PC police, or whatever. They have no trouble throwing around insults - but you better look out if you're going to throw one back!

The more this goes on the more the whole name-chance-crew starts to look ignorant (just read their arguments...), whiny, etc. I just hope they keep going after more organizations, that the threat of suit against the Indians is legit, and the call for the KC Chiefs gets more air time. The sooner the majority of people in this country realize what is going on, the quicker it'll all be pushed down back where it belongs.

edit: just to be clear, I'm talking about the people getting on TV and radio and claiming to speak on behalf of everyone that wants the name changed. there are plenty in that camp that make legitimate, well thought out arguments, including some on this board.

It doesn't have to mean they're calling everyone racist, but for many of the people taking the lead publicly on the issue that's what they're doing.

That's what it sounds like (to me at least) when someone says the name is 'obviously offensive', that it's 'obviously disparaging', or 'obviously racist.'

If the argument is that it's so 'obvious', then the implication is that I'm too ignorant/stupid/racist to realize it and/or care.

Which is fine - I don't mind being called names... the people pushing for this have quite a few names that fit them as well.

It just cracks me up when those people turn around and try to say they're not calling us names - they clearly are when they're making their argument, and when called it on it they try to backtrack.

It also makes me laugh when they start getting offended when they're called the names they deserve - such as ignorant, or PC police, or whatever. They have no trouble throwing around insults - but you better look out if you're going to throw one back!

The more this goes on the more the whole name-chance-crew starts to look ignorant (just read their arguments...), whiny, etc. I just hope they keep going after more organizations, that the threat of suit against the Indians is legit, and the call for the KC Chiefs gets more air time. The sooner the majority of people in this country realize what is going on, the quicker it'll all be pushed down back where it belongs.

edit: just to be clear, I'm talking about the people getting on TV and radio and claiming to speak on behalf of everyone that wants the name changed. there are plenty in that camp that make legitimate, well thought out arguments, including some on this board.

That's what gets me too! If there was such an obvious disparaging origin of the word "redskin" then there would not be any argument about it. Native Americans, by a large majority, would all agree it's offensive, and the name probably would have changed a long time ago - probably even before a lot of us were born.

That's what gets me about guys like Costas. Personally, I don't agree with NBC allowing him to dictate his personal political feelings on the team's name - especially during the halftime of an NFL game (and it being a Redskins game at that.) I'm not saying he can't have an opinion, but coming out on National television and stating his opinion as fact is unprofessional in my opinion.

Yeah. I wish the NFL would not let NBC have prime time redskins games until they agree to not allow Costas to do that.

check out the video in the link LOL

Woman at center of Redskins name change court battle from Arizon - CBS 5 - KPHO (http://www.kpho.com/story/25873907/woman-at-center-of-redskins-name-change-court-battle-from-arizona)

if this so important, why is it a very short ,filler story lol

Three women in a tent on a sidewalk.
That's one helluva protest!!!
Hey Amanda, go make me a sandwich......

Interesting article about the economics of changing the name (or more like the economic difficulties of a possible change):

Inside Slant: Presumed Washington Redskins bonanza - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/130696/inside-slant-presumed-redskins-bonanza)

check out the video in the link LOL

Woman at center of Redskins name change court battle from Arizon - CBS 5 - KPHO (http://www.kpho.com/story/25873907/woman-at-center-of-redskins-name-change-court-battle-from-arizona)

if this so important, why is it a very short ,filler story lol

Three people and a tent. Why is it a story at all?

This is another area I disagree with; just because people are saying the name is offensive now (either legitimately or otherwise), doesn't mean they're calling everyone who's ever uttered it a racist. Costas, et al have all used the name many times over their careers.

To call it offensive, disparaging or contemptuous is one thing, but to call it an obvious racial slur on par with the N-word implies anyone who supports the name is racist or ignorant. It's not unreasonable to take it that way either. After all, if there were a team called the Cleveland N-words, what would you think of their fans?

And after this period of "great enlightenment" where we have been educated on just how vile the word Redskin is, how it's equal to the N-word and it causes Native American children to have low esteem, if we still support the name then the logical conclusion can only be that we're terrible people who just don't get it. For they have bestowed upon us such valuable knowledge that we were ignorant to for years, decades even, and yet we still want to keep the name.

And when it does change, we'll be the ones who "were on the wrong side of history". People will shake their heads in disgust when old pictures of us in our Redskins jerseys are shown on TV during halftime of the 2035 Super Bowl between the Washington Warriors and the Kansas City Football Club.