Redskins Trademark cancelled

SmootSmack:

I love your honesty in all of this. And what you stated is pretty much what I said when I was debating this issue on another board. That is, once the change name crowd has been able to change the name of the team (if it ever does happen) they'll never think about the Native Americans again. The NA community will continue to struggle with the real issues surrounding them.

But like you said, most, if not all of us on either side of the argument will not pay any more attention to the Native Americans once this has all been settled. I'd like to think that through all of this, the foundations that Snyder has created would help us all to consider donating and doing something for the Native American community, but the hardcore truth is, it probably wouldn't. But, I can't understand why one would be so passionate about changing the name, out of the possibility that it could be offensive, but not have some passion toward doing something tangible to help the Native American community. Changing the name of a football team does nothing.

Just heard a caller on Kevin and Thom who suggested,
Daniel, just give away 88,000 free tickets to Indians and take his own vote at the stadium what they think of name change.........

School board votes to keep name Wellpinit Redskins | Spokane/E. WA - KXLY.com (http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/school-board-votes-to-keep-wellpinit-redskins/26580298)

“To me it's a proud name and any school that uses Redskins as their mascot makes me feel proud,” Wellpinit resident Celia Stearns said.

“We decided last night that we weren't going to change it. Talking to a lot of community members, the majority of the community don't want it changed,” Williams said, adding there is too much pride in being a mighty Redskin that he wouldn't want to be one to take that away.

“I think it would be more demeaning to them if we made them change it, in fact I wouldn't want to be on the board if we tried to make them change the name Redskins."

As Thom and Kevin point out.......is ALL this just another example of the Great White Father doing whats best for the lowly incompetent Indian who cannot manage their own lives?

School board votes to keep name Wellpinit Redskins | Spokane/E. WA - KXLY.com (http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/school-board-votes-to-keep-wellpinit-redskins/26580298)

“To me it's a proud name and any school that uses Redskins as their mascot makes me feel proud,” Wellpinit resident Celia Stearns said.

“We decided last night that we weren't going to change it. Talking to a lot of community members, the majority of the community don't want it changed,” Williams said, adding there is too much pride in being a mighty Redskin that he wouldn't want to be one to take that away.

“I think it would be more demeaning to them if we made them change it, in fact I wouldn't want to be on the board if we tried to make them change the name Redskins."

As Thom and Kevin point out.......is ALL this just another example of the Great White Father doing whats best for the lowly incompetent Indian who cannot manage their own lives?

I wouldn't say ALL - I think there are Native Americans that genuinely offended/concerned/etc... but yeah, I think majority of it is exactly that...

You can tell by the arguments they make... when you start reading into them they either suggest they haven't done any actual looking into the issue as whole, or they don't actually care.

It's hard to convince them of that though... they've convinced themselves they care very much, any suggesting that they don't normally offends them ;)

I don't know about white liberals but I heard Amanda Blackhorse, an Indian, say on NPR that in her opinion the logo was worse than the name.

The name is debatable but I really don't get why the logo would be objectionable to anyone. I think it represents Native Americans as confident and proud. That's a good thing, right?

The name is debatable but I really don't get why the logo would be objectionable to anyone. I think it represents Native Americans as confident and proud. That's a good thing, right?

Its pointless whether its meant to be a good thing or not.
Its a way for the Redskin haters to feck with us en masse.
They dont care about indians either.
I doubt Harry Ried lives in a wigwam.
We're a corporation and the meta gamers are going to find any way they can to undermine us.

Name change would almost certainly involve a logo change as well.

The name is debatable but I really don't get why the logo would be objectionable to anyone. I think it represents Native Americans as confident and proud. That's a good thing, right?

I dont think anyone objects to the logo, its the logo combined with the name that's the issue. That's why I think they should just stop using the name. Dont change it, just stop using it. Heck they can even keep the official name of the team as the Washington Redskins but just dont use the name on merchandise. Keep the logo and the colors, but dont change the name, just dont use it anymore.

I dont think anyone objects to the logo, its the logo combined with the name that's the issue. That's why I think they should just stop using the name. Dont change it, just stop using it. Heck they can even keep the official name of the team as the Washington Redskins but just dont use the name on merchandise. Keep the logo and the colors, but dont change the name, just dont use it anymore.As noted above, one of the most well known PC whiners claims the logo is more objectionable than the name. Sure.

Virginia/Maryland Pioneers/Colonists/Rangers/Cavaliers lol seems the way to go if they have to change the name.

I suppose the city of Washington, District of Columbia, itself should be worried about the next shoe to drop after Redskins, as I could see a strong push to change the city name next. After all, we all know what kind of a monster Columbus really was...
https://www.google.com/search?q=conquistador&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=native+american+feelings+on+columbus&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official