Redskins Trademark cancelled

<snip>And everyones got it all wrong, Red was a man, he had native american blood, so the name was in reference to them being family . . . RED'SKINS.

It's just been misinterpreted for years. :cheeky:

LOL. Who knew the solution was so simple? Red's kins... it all makes sense!


Far anything is bad. For example the way the Far Left tackles obesity is a virtual mirror image of the tactics used by the Far Rights approach to sex education. IE rather then just educating, stressing moderation, and being overall pragmatic the shift focuses towards just f****g ban everything.

No condoms, no sugary drinks, EVERYONE JUST SIT NATIVE AMERICAN STYLE IN THE CORNER AND STFU!

LMAO.

But when it comes to the name of a sports team that you find offensive, be sure to jump out of your corner and yell as loudly as you can, because Congress will drop whatever they're doing to listen to your complaint, no matter how silly or misguided it is... provided, of course, you can spin it into something racist or otherwise offensive.

If I were Dan, I would hire multiple journalist to write an article each week on different journalists/politicians that have done nothing to help Native Americans besides trying to change name.

I just listened to Amanda Blackhorse and the Redskins trademark attorney on the junkies.

I am leaning towards the position that we need to change our name.

She said no native american calls each other the R word and that the largest Native American governing body calls the name disparaging and wants the name changed.

The redskins attorney radzoch (sp?) just sounded bad. He said while the term "redskin" may be disparaging in some contexts, you must view the word in the context that the football team is using it - honor.

when asked if he would call a native american a redskin to his face - he waffled and never answered.

If the largest governing body of Native Americans dont like it, if you wouldnt call a native american a redskin to his or her face and native americans dont call themselves redskin = disparaging.

Who are we as non-native americans to tell them what to think or feel or try and play spin doctor by saying we use the word with honor.

You want to honor native americans? honor their voice and change the name.

Pointing to historical context of the word from 1814 for justification of the use of the word in 2014 is grasping for straws.

In 2014:
The largest native American governing body wants it changed.
Native Americans dont call themselves the R word.
You wouldnt call a Native American a redskin to their face.

All that pride and honor and historical roots talk is just us telling native americans we know whats best for them more than they do for themselves. Thats a down right prejudicial and demeaning approach.

I just listened to Amanda Blackhorse and the Redskins trademark attorney on the junkies.

I am leaning towards the position that we need to change our name.

She said no native american calls each other the R word and that the largest Native American governing body calls the name disparaging and wants the name changed.

The redskins attorney radzoch (sp?) just sounded bad. He said while the term "redskin" may be disparaging in some contexts, you must view the word in the context that the football team is using it - honor.

when asked if he would call a native american a redskin to his face - he waffled and never answered.

If the largest governing body of Native Americans dont like it, if you wouldnt call a native american a redskin to his or her face and native americans dont call themselves redskin = disparaging.

Who are we as non-native americans to tell them what to think or feel or try and play spin doctor by saying we use the word with honor.

You want to honor native americans? honor their voice and change the name.

Pointing to historical context of the word from 1814 for justification of the use of the word in 2014 is grasping for straws.

In 2014:
The largest native American governing body wants it changed.
Native Americans dont call themselves the R word.
You wouldnt call a Native American a redskin to their face.

All that pride and honor and historical roots talk is just us telling native americans we know whats best for them more than they do for themselves. Thats a down right prejudicial and demeaning approach.

I also heard that on the radio and agree that the Skins atty made a very poor impression.

I just listened to Amanda Blackhorse and the Redskins trademark attorney on the junkies.

I am leaning towards the position that we need to change our name.

She said no native american calls each other the R word and that the largest Native American governing body calls the name disparaging and wants the name changed.

The redskins attorney radzoch (sp?) just sounded bad. He said while the term "redskin" may be disparaging in some contexts, you must view the word in the context that the football team is using it - honor.

when asked if he would call a native american a redskin to his face - he waffled and never answered.

If the largest governing body of Native Americans dont like it, if you wouldnt call a native american a redskin to his or her face and native americans dont call themselves redskin = disparaging.

Who are we as non-native americans to tell them what to think or feel or try and play spin doctor by saying we use the word with honor.

You want to honor native americans? honor their voice and change the name.

Pointing to historical context of the word from 1814 for justification of the use of the word in 2014 is grasping for straws.

In 2014:
The largest native American governing body wants it changed.
Native Americans don't call themselves the R word.
You wouldn't call a Native American a redskin to their face.

All that pride and honor and historical roots talk is just us telling native americans we know whats best for them more than they do for themselves. Thats a down right prejudicial and demeaning approach.

There is a certain 'segment' of the population who simply feel that their world vision is the only one that matters and that everyone who doesn't agree with it needs to just get over it. "It's just a word! Whatever happened was years ago! Why can't we just move on?" They feel that anyone who is offended 'by a word' is just a limp wristed pansy-ass who needs to pull up their big boy britches and grow the hell up.

These are the same tough guys who wouldn't dare walk up to a Native American or into a Native American setting and use or try to defend the use of the term Redskin.

I just listened to Amanda Blackhorse and the Redskins trademark attorney on the junkies.

I am leaning towards the position that we need to change our name.

She said no native american calls each other the R word and that the largest Native American governing body calls the name disparaging and wants the name changed.

The redskins attorney radzoch (sp?) just sounded bad. He said while the term "redskin" may be disparaging in some contexts, you must view the word in the context that the football team is using it - honor.

when asked if he would call a native american a redskin to his face - he waffled and never answered.

If the largest governing body of Native Americans dont like it, if you wouldnt call a native american a redskin to his or her face and native americans dont call themselves redskin = disparaging.

Who are we as non-native americans to tell them what to think or feel or try and play spin doctor by saying we use the word with honor.

You want to honor native americans? honor their voice and change the name.

Pointing to historical context of the word from 1814 for justification of the use of the word in 2014 is grasping for straws.

In 2014:
The largest native American governing body wants it changed.
Native Americans dont call themselves the R word.
You wouldnt call a Native American a redskin to their face.

All that pride and honor and historical roots talk is just us telling native americans we know whats best for them more than they do for themselves. Thats a down right prejudicial and demeaning approach.

The question of would you call a native american a redskin to their face is so absurd. Only a dumb f u c k would come up with that question.

The guy should have responded "why should I call a native american a redskin to their face? The only reason to call a native american a redskins would be if he was on the football team. Contextually would not make sense because no one uses the term redskin other than to describe someone who plays for the franchise"

There is a certain 'segment' of the population who simply feel that their world vision is the only one that matters and that everyone who doesn't agree with it needs to just get over it. "It's just a word! Whatever happened was years ago! Why can't we just move on?" They feel that anyone who is offended 'by a word' is just a limp wristed pansy-ass who needs to pull up their big boy britches and grow the hell up.

These are the same tough guys who wouldn't dare walk up to a Native American or into a Native American setting and use or try to defend the use of the term Redskin.

True dat about those "tough guys". No way would anyone call a Native American a Redskin to their face. The same way people dont go around tossing out the N-word to a African American's face, chink or Jap to an Asian or Spic to a Hispanic.

True dat about those "tough guys". No way would anyone call a Native American a Redskin to their face. The same way people dont go around tossing out the N-word to a African American's face, chink or Jap to an Asian or Spic to a Hispanic.

I wouldnt go up to an Indian and call him a Native American to his face. As plenty (certainly not all) have said that is a derogatory term to Indians. Russell Means flat out said it was racist, and also said if anyone called him Native American to his face, they would have a fight on their hands.

I understand there isnt money to be made off of fighting the term Native American so no one cares about the Indians opinion of it. But would the ones who clearly dont care about what Indians think quit telling me im racist to Indians while using a term that some Indians (again, not all) do, in fact, call racist.

The question of would you call a native american a redskin to their face is so absurd. Only a dumb f u c k would come up with that question.

The guy should have responded "why should I call a native american a redskin to their face? The only reason to call a native american a redskins would be if he was on the football team. Contextually would not make sense because no one uses the term redskin other than to describe someone who plays for the franchise"

I may have agreed with you a few years or even a few months ago but now, after hearing and reading more into it, I disagree. I think the question is a salient one.

Limiting the context of the word to the "redskins football team" is very narrow, limited and self-serving approach by any redskin fan imo.

You also waffled and misdirected instead of answering the question. if it truly is not a disparaging term for native americans then your answer should be "yes, i absolutely would call a native american a redskin to his or her face."

In white america the word is generally accepted as referring to the football team. I am white america. it took some time and consideration of what non-white america was saying for me to see the other side's point.

How redskins' fans view or use the word is missing the point entirely. Of course you see nothing wrong with the word.



i think some redskins fans need to step back from the issue and reconsider their view on this in an objective manner. if you still feel the way you do, that is 100% your right and I would respect that. i dont think i can respect someone for taking their expected position right away and never re-considering the issue.

i get that we dont view the term in a bad way, we dont use it in a bad way, initially i was also circling the wagons defending the name. ultimately it is not for us to decide this issue. if a segment of native americans want it changed, i dont have a right to tell them to not be offended.

edit - chico i like you but dont call me a dumb fuck. use words and thoughts to express your point.

The fact there are so many differing opinions says a lot. It's not a black and white matter like the pro-name change people want to make it. It's also why I don't see the name changing anytime soon.