All things offseason discussion part II

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Ruhskins
07-15-2014, 05:25 PM
Cowpukes releasing Kyle Orton per Schefter.

Southpaw
07-15-2014, 05:29 PM
Let somebody else do it. Good teams don't overpay for "good" talent. They pay for elite talent and let everybody else walk.

The Redskins have a habit of letting good talent walk because they're not 'elite'. That's how you end up with guys like Reed Doughty, Josh Wilson, and Rob Jackson as starters.

There's no point in letting well above average, home grown talent walk when you have nothing better(at this point in time) to replace it. Is saving some money really worth downgrading an already terrible defense?

MTK
07-15-2014, 05:35 PM
And then what do we do with Kerrigan? Let him walk because he's not "elite"? :doh:

SirLK26
07-15-2014, 05:47 PM
Cowpukes releasing Kyle Orton per Schefter.

Well, they're still in good shape in the backup QB department with Weeden on board. :D

NC_Skins
07-15-2014, 06:38 PM
The Redskins have a habit of letting good talent walk because they're not 'elite'. That's how you end up with guys like Reed Doughty, Josh Wilson, and Rob Jackson as starters.

There's no point in letting well above average, home grown talent walk when you have nothing better(at this point in time) to replace it. Is saving some money really worth downgrading an already terrible defense?


Give me a break. The reason why we have Wilson, Doughtery and Jackson as starters isn't because we let good players walk, but because we never developed through the draft and pissed away draft picks for somebody else. This team was absolute garbage in terms of talent when Shanny hit the scene and in some ways still is (on defense side)


Most of the "good" players that that we let walk aren't guys who were asking for a boat load of money or to be paid as an elite player. Orakpo is. That's the difference here. We could have had Clark and Pierce for decent deals, but our moronic staff wanted for "flash in the pan." See, those are contracts I have problem dealing out.


And then what do we do with Kerrigan? Let him walk because he's not "elite"? :doh:

It's not a matter of letting him walk if he isn't elite. It's a matter of letting him walk if he wants too much money. If he's seeking to be paid as an elite player, you go a different direction. You pay good players good salaries, and elite players elite salaries. Nobody is saying not to pay these guys, it's all about not over paying them either.

Giantone
07-15-2014, 07:26 PM
Well, they're still in good shape in the backup QB department with Weeden on board. :D



Just putting out a question to all , do you think Jerry Jones would trade with Cleveland for Johnny Manzel ?

Paintrain
07-15-2014, 07:30 PM
If you beleive that QB win games, we've already got 5 wins locked up according to Jaws rankings..

“@ESPNNFL: Jaws QB Countdown ranking thus far.
32 M Cassel*
31 R Fitzpatrick*
30 G Smith
29 J Locker*
28 EJ Manuel
27 C Henne*
26 B Hoyer
25 J McCown*”

punch it in
07-15-2014, 07:39 PM
Give me a break. The reason why we have Wilson, Doughtery and Jackson as starters isn't because we let good players walk, but because we never developed through the draft and pissed away draft picks for somebody else. This team was absolute garbage in terms of talent when Shanny hit the scene and in some ways still is (on defense side)





Most of the "good" players that that we let walk aren't guys who were asking for a boat load of money or to be paid as an elite player. Orakpo is. That's the difference here. We could have had Clark and Pierce for decent deals, but our moronic staff wanted for "flash in the pan." See, those are contracts I have problem dealing out.









It's not a matter of letting him walk if he isn't elite. It's a matter of letting him walk if he wants too much money. If he's seeking to be paid as an elite player, you go a different direction. You pay good players good salaries, and elite players elite salaries. Nobody is saying not to pay these guys, it's all about not over paying them either.


Would tend to agree with this....

skinsfan69
07-15-2014, 07:57 PM
If you beleive that QB win games, we've already got 5 wins locked up according to Jaws rankings..

“@ESPNNFL: Jaws QB Countdown ranking thus far.
32 M Cassel*
31 R Fitzpatrick*
30 G Smith
29 J Locker*
28 EJ Manuel
27 C Henne*
26 B Hoyer
25 J McCown*”

Not sure what Jaws is thinking. McCown was one the best QB's the the league last year. And we lost to Cassel last year.

MTK
07-15-2014, 07:59 PM
It's not a matter of letting him walk if he isn't elite. It's a matter of letting him walk if he wants too much money. If he's seeking to be paid as an elite player, you go a different direction. You pay good players good salaries, and elite players elite salaries. Nobody is saying not to pay these guys, it's all about not over paying them either.

You pay what the market dictates. Like it or not Rak is going to be worthy of a pretty significant deal. The team was willing to at least eat his franchise number of over $11M this year, that's saying something.

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