All things offseason discussion part II

Pages : 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44

Alvin Walton
06-11-2014, 02:10 PM
Vick wasn't even playing.
How is he a big loss?

CRedskinsRule
06-11-2014, 02:43 PM
Vick wasn't even playing.
How is he a big loss?

Vick was able to come in and run Kelly's offense, and had pro-experience. Before last year's run, Foles was not looking like the real deal, maybe he has matured and will be great, but if he reverts back to form, the lack of a quality back up will bite them (like it would any team in the NFL).

CRedskinsRule
06-11-2014, 02:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp3dgCOCcAALXzK.jpg

CRedskinsRule
06-11-2014, 02:45 PM
Gruden Quotes, via @Redskins tweets:

Washington Redskins ‏@Redskins 15m
On LB Keenan Robinson: "You don't have to be a Ray Lewis-type player to be a successful MLB. ... I'm more about the play than the talk."

Washington Redskins ‏@Redskins 17m
Gruden on OL Josh LeRibeus: "He's in good shape, and he's made some improvements from what I saw last year."

Washington Redskins ‏@Redskins 18m
Gruden on the upcoming #SkinsCamp practices with the Patriots: "I was open to the opportunity." Said it changes the flow at practices.

SirLK26
06-11-2014, 02:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp3dgCOCcAALXzK.jpg

Who's the heavier guy on our right? Looks sorta familiar? Surely not Jay, is it?

Defensewins
06-11-2014, 03:01 PM
Vick wasn't even playing.
How is he a big loss?

I have to agree. The switch from Vick to Foles and getting rid of Vick was win-win. Vick is a walking injury waiting to happen. Plus he makes too much to be a backup. The eagles are better off.
Who cares that the backups are not experienced. They will gain experience.

Plus the Eagles have a much improved offensive line. I think they have the best O-line in the NFC East. That is a big advantage when you can run the ball and protect your QB. Takes a ton of pressure off the QB.
49ers and Seahawks have great O-lines/running games and great defense. Great recipe for winning.

KI Skins Fan
06-11-2014, 03:04 PM
Losing Jackson was huge for them. There was an article posted on here that showed the percentage of scoring drives for the Eagles where Jackson had a catch versus those scoring drives where he didn't, and the difference proved that he was a huge part of their offense.

But he and Vick were the two biggest offseason losses, and they replaced those two with plenty of talent through both draft and FA. First of all for the receiving corps, they resigned Cooper, who's a solid receiver; then they drafted Jordan Matthews, who isn't as good or fast as Jackson but will put up solid numbers early, IMO; signed Sproles as you mentioned; and then they have Maclin returning from the ACL injury. Plus, they have the development of Zach Ertz to look forward to. So they don't have the explosiveness anymore that DJax offered, but make no mistake, they'll still put up points. On Vick: yeah, there's a chance Foles gets injured, but a backup QB isn't that big of a loss.

That's just on offense. On defense, they signed Malcolm Jenkins, who is now their best safety. Plus, they drafted Ed Reynolds and and still have Brandon Boykins in the slot, so their secondary will be improved. And most importantly, they drafted Marcus Smith, who was second in the nation in sacks, behind only our man Murphy.

In short, they lost one of their best players, but added some talent on both sides of the ball that pretty much made up for that huge loss.

You're putting way too much value on draftees and pedestrian FA acquisitions. There is no way to know what they can contribute.

I agree with you that Jackson was a huge loss for them. Getting Maclin back and the development of Ertz won't be nearly enough to make up for that. With the loss of Jackson, they no longer have any WR who compels the defense to game-plan for him.

Sproles has been one of my favorite players for years. Nevertheless, I don't see what he gives them that they didn't already have and I think that he has been in decline for the last two seasons.

To me, the loss of Vick is a big deal if Foles misses much time due to injury this season because his current backups can't play at all.

So I don't think think they're any better than they were last season but they are solid in the trenches, they have a good QB, an above average receiving corps, and a great RB. Overall, they're a good, competitive team and I think they deserve to be the favorite to win the NFC East at this time.

Lotus
06-11-2014, 03:43 PM
Champ Bailey votes for the name to change FWIW.

Y! SPORTS (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/champ-bailey-says-redskins-nickname-tantamount-racial-slur-155416903--nfl.html)

Chico23231
06-11-2014, 04:00 PM
Champ Bailey votes for the name to change FWIW.

Y! SPORTS (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/champ-bailey-says-redskins-nickname-tantamount-racial-slur-155416903--nfl.html)

champ can F*ck off and die. i wouldnt care

KI Skins Fan
06-11-2014, 04:33 PM
Champ Bailey votes for the name to change FWIW.

Y! SPORTS (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/champ-bailey-says-redskins-nickname-tantamount-racial-slur-155416903--nfl.html)


From Champ to Chump?

EZ Archive Ads Plugin for vBulletin Copyright 2006 Computer Help Forum