All things offseason discussion part II

Eh, Manziel is kind of a douche, but then so is RGIII if we're being honest. All the great QBs have a little bit of that. I think it just comes with the territory, and the cockiness/confidence/swagger that's needed at that position.

I think Manziel will succeed in the NFL, although Gordon getting suspended won't help.

Haha, speak of the devil!!

Johnny Manziel takes a selfie with Robert Griffin III at Nissan’s ‘Heisman House’ - The Washington Post (http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/07/02/johnny-manziel-takes-a-selfie-with-robert-griffin-iii-at-nissans-heisman-house/)

Haha, speak of the devil!!

Johnny Manziel takes a selfie with Robert Griffin III at Nissan’s ‘Heisman House’ - The Washington Post (http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/07/02/johnny-manziel-takes-a-selfie-with-robert-griffin-iii-at-nissans-heisman-house/)

Wonder if Kyle misses rg3?

Eh, Manziel is kind of a douche, but then so is RGIII if we're being honest. All the great QBs have a little bit of that. I think it just comes with the territory, and the cockiness/confidence/swagger that's needed at that position.

I think Manziel will succeed in the NFL, although Gordon getting suspended won't help.

How is RGIII a douche?

A douchebag, a wifebeater, and an alcoholic walk into a bar.....
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Johnny Football partied with Bieber, because of course he did | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/07/01/johnny-football-partied-with-bieber-because-of-course-he-did/)

Jersey Shore - the next generation, lol!

How is RGIII a douche?

All the self-promotion for one thing. Just my opinion, though. :)

How is RGIII a douche?

well... he put the organization in a bind last year essentially demanding he be started.

he's done nothing but take shots at shanahan since he was fired. he's still taking shots.

off the field he's a raging douche at this point. the fact that he has so much influence over the organization is deeply concerning to me right now.

i hope 2012 was just a small sample of what he's capable of on the field, because off the field isn't looking so great right now.

oh and remember how last year he was like 'I don't need preseason'? Someone obviously talked to him, he did a 180 the day after. But for a split second we got a clear view of what his mentality actually is.

his "operation patience" t shirt was unnecessary. thats the only thing imo and I am a big shanny fan.

there is a thin line between being confident and cocky.

RG3 has def stayed on the side of confident.

Manziel has def stayed on the side of cocky.

both are necessary for glory positions like QB or WR or CB.



but please - lets not turn this into a RG3 and manziel comparison thread. RG3 is nothing like manziel.

People sure have an interesting view on the word douche. I guess pretty much every athlete qualifies.

I think a lot of the negative things attributed to RG3 were overblown or from his people/family. I also think some of it was straight lying from the Shanahans.