All things offseason discussion part II

lol Johnny is douching it up like only he can. What a moron.

Hoyer and the coaches are in a no win situation. I can't imagine what it's going to be like once they start losing or Hoyer throws a few picks. The fans, media and owner will be calling for Maziel like no ones business.

The Browns have no one to blame but themselves. It obviously came down to selling tickets and getting fans excited again. Meanwhile Bridgewater and Carr not only had solid camps but are acting and conducting themselves like professionals.

Yeah, I've been hearing great things about Teddy's deep ball and overall game lately. Obviously they're still in shorts, but...

And yes, Teddy and Carr haven't made any negative headlines at all so far. Manziel needs to take a lesson from them and the countless veterans around the league who are conducting themselves properly, because I can't see Manziel succeeding if he doesn't mature. Terrance West and Paul Kruger have already said that Manziel has been a distraction to the Browns.

Gotta remember these are men, though. Not gonna pretend that a few headlines about a rookie are going to destine the team for failure.

Your a paid professional representing a franchise and the shield. His life has changed and needs to recognize it. It only a matter of time


How many others have done worse? How many others does anyone care About? Just sayin. Dude hasnt killed anyone.

Hoyer and the coaches are in a no win situation. I can't imagine what it's going to be like once they start losing or Hoyer throws a few picks. The fans, media and owner will be calling for Maziel like no ones business.


Yup and nobody will say, well he rode a flamingo raft so i dont think hes ready.

How many others have done worse? How many others does anyone care About? Just sayin. Dude hasnt killed anyone.

Exactly. Johnny is all business on the field. Have the naysayers watched this kid play? The reason Carr/Bridgewater haven't stirred up controversy is due to the fact that their names aren't Johnny Manziel. Neither of them have the talent that Manziel has or live under the microscope like he does. Carr will falter just like his brother did. Bridgewater slid for many reasons. The Vikings would've been in better shape if they took the QB the Pats picked up.

Jerry Rice.....Jr. signs with the team

I thought someone had posted this, but it had gotten lost within all the Manziel talk. Will be interesting to see what he does during training camp. He probably won't make the final 53, but who knows?

Exactly. Johnny is all business on the field. Have the naysayers watched this kid play? The reason Carr/Bridgewater haven't stirred up controversy is due to the fact that their names aren't Johnny Manziel. Neither of them have the talent that Manziel has or live under the microscope like he does. Carr will falter just like his brother did. Bridgewater slid for many reasons. The Vikings would've been in better shape if they took the QB the Pats picked up.


He brings the drama on himself. And he slid in the draft too. Nobody knows if any of these guys can play at the next level yet.

He brings the drama on himself. And he slid in the draft too. Nobody knows if any of these guys can play at the next level yet.

Exactly! Until the "kid" proves he can play at the pro level, the naysayers will continue to speak. Heck, the naysayers are still speaking about RGIII.

I laugh at the people defending Manziel, but he's his own worst enemy. Is he doing anything wrong by going out, drinking, hanging with celebs? Absolutely not. Is he drawing uneeded attention to himself? Absolutely yes.


What this tells me is Manziel doesn't make good decisions. If he can't make good decisions off the field, what makes people think he's going to make them on the football field? How stupid do you have to be to carry a stack of cash around? What does that tell you about his decision making ability? While his antics aren't harming anybody, the position he plays demands a lot in the way of good decision making and maturity, which he's shown absolutely none. I really don't expect this kid to go far.