w/o of next year

Matty/Malcom:

Cooley can break out this year by actually getting into the end zone more frequently. That was the major failing of the team last season and someone has to get the job done. If you think he can't get a whole lot better than he was last year, then he was a waste of time as a draft pick because he was decidedly average for the league last year.


Malcom:

In two seasons, Jacobs has shown nothing productive as a WR. Ooooh, he's fast! So what. Cliff Russell was even faster and they cut his ass and no one missed him even a whit. Speed is one important part of being a WR but it ain't enough by itself. And so far, Jacobs has shown precious little else. If he caught 30 passes and 1 TD next year, that would be a breakout year for him.



McCants will either get with the program that the staff is putting out or he will see the field once every three weeks again this year. Compared to last year, he'd have a break out year with 15 catches and 2 TDs.


Do you folks realize that Gus Frerotte stands a real chance to be the starter in Miami? If he can start, maybe Heath-bar can make a comeback too? [Just kidding.]


The breakout player of the year will have to be Patrick Ramsey because if he does not improve dramatically, the Skins will be lucky to break even this year AND will need to make some tough choices in the next offseason about what the team's future QB situation will be. Here is what Ramsey needs to accomplish:

Twice as many TDs as INTs.
QB Rating of at least 85 and preferably 90
Third down conversion rate of 43-45%
Less than 35 sacks.
Less than 8 fumbles.

McCants should be playing-special teams or not

Matty/Malcom:

Cooley can break out this year by actually getting into the end zone more frequently. That was the major failing of the team last season and someone has to get the job done. If you think he can't get a whole lot better than he was last year, then he was a waste of time as a draft pick because he was decidedly average for the league last year.


Malcom:

In two seasons, Jacobs has shown nothing productive as a WR. Ooooh, he's fast! So what. Cliff Russell was even faster and they cut his ass and no one missed him even a whit. Speed is one important part of being a WR but it ain't enough by itself. And so far, Jacobs has shown precious little else. If he caught 30 passes and 1 TD next year, that would be a breakout year for him.



McCants will either get with the program that the staff is putting out or he will see the field once every three weeks again this year. Compared to last year, he'd have a break out year with 15 catches and 2 TDs.


Do you folks realize that Gus Frerotte stands a real chance to be the starter in Miami? If he can start, maybe Heath-bar can make a comeback too? [Just kidding.]


The breakout player of the year will have to be Patrick Ramsey because if he does not improve dramatically, the Skins will be lucky to break even this year AND will need to make some tough choices in the next offseason about what the team's future QB situation will be. Here is what Ramsey needs to accomplish:

Twice as many TDs as INTs.
QB Rating of at least 85 and preferably 90
Third down conversion rate of 43-45%
Less than 35 sacks.
Less than 8 fumbles.


In all do respect SC on Jacobs, all I hear on this board is how it takes a reciever 3 years before they mature and become all they can be, yet if a reciever doesn't go crazy his first 2 years he's knocked for it, Jacob's had a freak injury most of his rookie season under SS, and lets face it Gibbs didn't show the greatest of judgement in personel last season, he went and played Gardner all year long to find out what most of us on this board already new, Gardner will burn you every time, and he left Ramseys favorite target inactive most of the season. Jacobs has shown he has the physical ability, he just needs an offense that will get him more involved, and that's Gibbs job.

SC - Cliff Russell couldn't catch a cold. That's a big difference from jacobs who the staff raves about.

Matty/Malcom:

Cooley can break out this year by actually getting into the end zone more frequently. That was the major failing of the team last season and someone has to get the job done. If you think he can't get a whole lot better than he was last year, then he was a waste of time as a draft pick because he was decidedly average for the league last year.

What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!

In all do respect SC on Jacobs, all I hear on this board is how it takes a reciever 3 years before they mature and become all they can be, yet if a reciever doesn't go crazy his first 2 years he's knocked for it, Jacob's had a freak injury most of his rookie season under SS, and lets face it Gibbs didn't show the greatest of judgement in personel last season, he went and played Gardner all year long to find out what most of us on this board already new, Gardner will burn you every time, and he left Ramseys favorite target inactive most of the season. Jacobs has shown he has the physical ability, he just needs an offense that will get him more involved, and that's Gibbs job.

1) I have heard maybe two or three people say it take a WR three years to develop, not many more. I do not agree that it takes three years. WR is one of the few postions (RB the other) where a talented rookie can come in and play right away. QB on the other hand is much more difficult.

2) Regarding Jacobs freak accident/injury during his rookie season, it caused him to only miss 1/4 of his rookie season. He was on the sideline and ready to play for most of the other games that year. IMO Jacob just did not show enough in practice to earn a starting position and displace another starting WR.

3) Correct me if I am wrong, are you saying Jacobs was/is Ramsey's favorite target? When last season did Jacobs become Ramsey's favorite target? I must have missed that memo. It seemed clear to me that L. Coles and Cooley were Ramsey's favorite targets last year.

4) Regarding who's job it is to get Jacobs more involved: A player has to earn his starting position. It is Jacobs #1 responsiblity to be in shape, stay healthy and EARN a starting job. I am not sure why you are blaming Gibbs? It was not Gibbs fault Jacobs missed almost all of 2004 preseason due to minor injuries. It was not Gibbs fault that Jacobs could not even crack the starting line up the year before under Spurrier. Spurrier ran the same system Jacobs played in college. Jacobs came in at a clear advantage in knowing the system better than any other WR on the roster. Still he could not earn a starting spot.

I am not seeing that he is ready to explode.
He plays well in non-contact practices. Big deal. So did Trung Canidate.

Jeezus. No way am I taking away from what Cooley did last year. I thought he played great and he quickly became one of my favorite players on the team. I'm just laying it out as I see it.

I just don't see how I was "knocking" him. Oh well, I guess some things just get taken COMPLETELY out of context.

What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!

I'm not positive but didn't Cooley have the best rookie season of all the TEs/H-Backs?

I don't think he even dropped a ball all season.

Jeezus. No way am I taking away from what Cooley did last year. I thought he played great and he quickly became one of my favorite players on the team. I'm just laying it out as I see it.

I just don't see how I was "knocking" him. Oh well, I guess some things just get taken COMPLETELY out of context.

Who said you were knocking him? I can't find any post that says that

What more could have Cooley done last season for you to agree that he had a good season?!?! How many other 3rd round picks from last year had the season that he had? Hell how many 1st rounders had the season that he had? Cooley was deffinetly a surprise for us, to be chosen in the third round and have a season like he did!! Not many rookies can come in to the NFL and be "decidedly average" in there first 16 game season, esp. on a new and dismal offense!!! Cooley will get better, but cut the kid some slack he did do whatever was asked of him!!

Cooley exceeded expectations, but let not go over board. There are plenty of rookie TE that come in have great - probowl rookie years.
Some drafted as low or lower than Cooley.
San Diego Charger - Antonio Gates was not even drafted. He was an undrafted rookie that was the starter on the AFC 2004 Pro Bowl team.
Jason Witten - Cowboys - was drafted in the thrid round (just like Cooley) and was on the 2004 NFC Pro Bowl team.