Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

You're right, but Kaepernick's close enough and young enough to get paid like a franchiser. Like I said before, he was overpaid, but at the same time, he had all the leverage and SF couldn't really take the chance on letting him walk.

That's the way business is done now with QB's. Sometimes you have to overpay.

That's the way business is done now with QB's. Sometimes you have to overpay.

with tv deals and the enormous pay day you get for making the playoffs, advancing in the playoffs, making the superbowl, and winning the superbowl (how big of a payday you get goes up depending on how far you go...) overpaying here and there is easily made up for if you wind up being right.

for example - we overpaid to acquire griffin, and we're going to overpay to keep him. If we wind up with multiple NFC championship appearances and at least one SB, it's going to wind up being worth the cost.

given how much money the NFL is currently making, they're gambling with free money anyways. NFL ownership practically comes with a license to print money these days. the only real cost is the salary cap consequences...

Former Giants star Will Hill trashes NJ rental home, refuses to pay up | PIX 11 (http://pix11.com/2014/06/04/former-giants-star-will-hill-trashes-nj-rental-home-refuses-to-pay-up/)


No way I would want this clown anywhere near our team.

Are you talking about Colin Kaep or CK? Colin better worry about what happens after Harbaugh leaves this season for the Michigan job.

I'm talking about Colin Kaep. Double tapped the K.

Washington Redskins QB Robert Griffin III OK with less attention -- 'It's about we' - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11033432/washington-redskins-qb-robert-griffin-iii-ok-less-attention-we?addata=module-b)

The article itself was pretty basic off-season fodder BUT I thought the following quote from Gruden was interesting:

"He [Griffin] doesn't like negative publicity," Gruden said. "He wants everything to be right. He wants everybody to love Robert and that's not always going to be the case at the quarterback position."

I have never bought into the "RGIII is a diva" concept - just too much evidence that he is a hard worker and is very well liked/respected by his teammates. However, I do think the guy wants to be liked. Not in a "look at me" or "me first" way, but in a "Let's all be pals" kind of way. Unfortunately, being an NFL QB is similar to supervising others - you can't always be their buddy.

I can also see how this would clash with a head coach like Shanahan who really didn't appear to give a flying f*** if anyone liked him as long as they respected him.

I have never bought into the "RGIII is a diva" concept - just too much evidence that he is a hard worker and is very well liked/respected by his teammates. However, I do think the guy wants to be liked. Not in a "look at me" or "me first" way, but in a "Let's all be pals" kind of way. Unfortunately, being an NFL QB is similar to supervising others - you can't always be their buddy.

I can also see how this would clash with a head coach like Shanahan who really didn't appear to give a flying f*** if anyone liked him as long as they respected him.

You make a good point about the RGIII/Shanahan relationship. A good manager knows not to try to treat all people in the same manner. Fairly yes but not not in the same manner. People have different personalities, they value different things, they respond best to different approaches, and some need more attention than others. Shanahan must have forgotten that. If Shanahan was going to maintain a good relationship with any player, his relationship with RGIII should have been the one he valued most.

People use the word "franchise QB" too loosely. He's not a franchise QB at this point and time. Period. The 49ers were just as good with Alex Smith behind the helm which shows you it wasn't the QB responsible for their winning.

The only franchise QBs in this league currently are: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Roethlisberger........and maybe Stafford.

Others have the potential to be but simply aren't there quite yet.


Stafford, no, absolutely not. I agree with what else you are saying but not on Stafford

Stafford, no, absolutely not. I agree with what else you are saying but not on Stafford

Ill say it, RG3 > Stafford

Why is Romo better than Stafford?
Edit / i didnt misread Chicos post - more asking due to previous comments.

As much as Romo can go to hell, he is better than Stafford.